Actually the GMC Sierra Denali can tow more than the F-150 or the Titan(10000lbs)

 

Again, take a look at the numbers. Same horsepower, 5 ft-lbs more with the SS. The SS also weighs 500 lbs more than the dodge. And it beats the hemi with a 4-speed transmission. So how is it "good" that the hemi can run with the SS. It should be able to run with it. The SS was never meant to be pitted up against the lightning or the SRT. If chevy wanted to they could easily compete with those two. At least chevy and dodge can produce horsepower without always slapping a supercharger on it. Imagine if the SRT-10 had one, can you tell me whats a lightning anymore?

 

Well said.

 

And all I asked was some info on the Chev SS......not emotional drivel.

 

What's wrong with a supercharger? It's not like you can't get more power out of a Lightning or Cobra.

 

How do you get more power out of them that you can't do to any other engine out there. Yes you could put nitrous on it, but you can do that to the other engines as well. If dodge put a supercharger on theirs, it would really walk on the lightning. They have the engine sitting there, the 5.0 L cammer which is capable of 440 h.p. natural aspirated and capable of 500 with some fine tuning. Then you would have the option of adding the supercharger later and be well over 600 h.p.

I know that the supercharger is always better for fuel economy than a larger displacement motor. But then again like I said previously if the other engines were supercharged the SVT vehicles from ford wouldn't even be in the same league as them.

 

Wrong again, boys! A 5.4L with a supercharger (read Lightning, buddy) runs in the 13s stock, so that's a 5.4L with a supercharger that can easily outrun the SS.
As far as Titans go, I agree, it may accelerate faster with a load, but it can't carry as much of a load as the F-150. How many times do you give `er full throttle with a trailer loaded to the max until you get to the speed limit? Acceleration doesn't mean that the truck wins unless you are comparing acceleration, and I was comparing towing ability.

 

I'm talking a 5.4 L vehicle that is comparable to the SS. Not the lightning "buddy". Supercharge any normal 5.4 L and you won't end up to the SS. Does the lighning have all wheel drive, let alone an extended cab? Last time I looked I didn't think so.

 

The titan crew cab 4x4 tows more than the supercrew 4x4. I am only interested in crew cabs so the towing ability is based upon this for me. I ain't going to buy anything different just to say that I can tow more.

 

So you're not comparing trucks, you're comparing crew cabs. The maximum towing isn't with a crew cab, so you don't have that option. Most people don't buy trucks to say they can tow, they buy trucks so they can use their trucks to tow. I think that a 5.4L in a regular F-150, not a Lightning, is capable of turning a 1/4 mile time in the 14s. Also, faster than the SS.

 

Haha, FL you dream a reg cab shortbed F-150 2wd with a 5.4L auto is slower than my V6 5spd if you dont believe me, you may want to try for yourself, and my truck only runs a 16.484 stock.

not much slower, as in maybe a truck length little more little less depending on driver...but that is how it is. I have yet to lose to a stock Full size pick up, excluding SS, Lightning S/C harley and a few others like that.

 

If I'm interested in the crew cabs then I'll compare them. Why would someone compare a truck configuration that they are not going to buy?

 

You planning on towing with this truck? Here is what you do.

Get a dyno sheet for both engines, and the weights of the trucks you are looking at. Figure the avg torque for 1k-3k RPMs for both motors. Divide the weight ofthe truck by the avg torq for its applicable motor. the one with the lowest ratio is the better for towing, plain and simple.

Numbers should be around 1:15 1 ft lb for every 15lb veh weight.

 

OH looks we opened up a half ton pickup war here. Lots of . Hey Ford wins on one count it will outlast any truck on the road today. Hold up better in the long run. What else matters. Have a good day

 

Good stuff Al