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From: MN
Originally Posted by FordLariat
WRONG! Maybe it's base model is superior to Ford's, but the best towing 1/2 ton offered is the F-150.
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A 2wd Dodge with the Hemi is running 15 second quarter miles, and that's their "average" truck. That's good enough to run with the SS. In my opinion, the SS is a joke considering the market it was intended to compete with. I would be willing to bet money that the Nissan Titan could even run with the SS.
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Originally Posted by tkondro
Again, take a look at the numbers. Same horsepower, 5 ft-lbs more with the SS. The SS also weighs 500 lbs more than the dodge. And it beats the hemi with a 4-speed transmission. So how is it "good" that the hemi can run with the SS. It should be able to run with it. The SS was never meant to be pitted up against the lightning or the SRT. If chevy wanted to they could easily compete with those two. At least chevy and dodge can produce horsepower without always slapping a supercharger on it. Imagine if the SRT-10 had one, can you tell me whats a lightning anymore?
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From: suthern elinoees
Originally Posted by tkondro
At least chevy and dodge can produce horsepower without always slapping a supercharger on it.
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How do you get more power out of them that you can't do to any other engine out there. Yes you could put nitrous on it, but you can do that to the other engines as well. If dodge put a supercharger on theirs, it would really walk on the lightning. They have the engine sitting there, the 5.0 L cammer which is capable of 440 h.p. natural aspirated and capable of 500 with some fine tuning. Then you would have the option of adding the supercharger later and be well over 600 h.p.
I know that the supercharger is always better for fuel economy than a larger displacement motor. But then again like I said previously if the other engines were supercharged the SVT vehicles from ford wouldn't even be in the same league as them.
I know that the supercharger is always better for fuel economy than a larger displacement motor. But then again like I said previously if the other engines were supercharged the SVT vehicles from ford wouldn't even be in the same league as them.
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From: pound
Originally Posted by tkondro
It clips 0-60 times in 6.6 seconds and the quarter mile in just under 15 seconds. With those times a 5.4 L ford with a supercharger couldn't run that. So I think its safe to say that the SS was just playing with you.
As far as Titans go, I agree, it may accelerate faster with a load, but it can't carry as much of a load as the F-150. How many times do you give `er full throttle with a trailer loaded to the max until you get to the speed limit? Acceleration doesn't mean that the truck wins unless you are comparing acceleration, and I was comparing towing ability.
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I'm talking a 5.4 L vehicle that is comparable to the SS. Not the lightning "buddy". Supercharge any normal 5.4 L and you won't end up to the SS. Does the lighning have all wheel drive, let alone an extended cab? Last time I looked I didn't think so.
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The titan crew cab 4x4 tows more than the supercrew 4x4. I am only interested in crew cabs so the towing ability is based upon this for me. I ain't going to buy anything different just to say that I can tow more.
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From: pound
So you're not comparing trucks, you're comparing crew cabs. The maximum towing isn't with a crew cab, so you don't have that option. Most people don't buy trucks to say they can tow, they buy trucks so they can use their trucks to tow. I think that a 5.4L in a regular F-150, not a Lightning, is capable of turning a 1/4 mile time in the 14s. Also, faster than the SS.
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Haha, FL you dream 
a reg cab shortbed F-150 2wd with a 5.4L auto is slower than my V6 5spd if you dont believe me, you may want to try for yourself, and my truck only runs a 16.484 stock.
not much slower, as in maybe a truck length little more little less depending on driver...but that is how it is. I have yet to lose to a stock Full size pick up, excluding SS, Lightning S/C harley and a few others like that.
a reg cab shortbed F-150 2wd with a 5.4L auto is slower than my V6 5spd if you dont believe me, you may want to try for yourself, and my truck only runs a 16.484 stock.not much slower, as in maybe a truck length little more little less depending on driver...but that is how it is. I have yet to lose to a stock Full size pick up, excluding SS, Lightning S/C harley and a few others like that.
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You planning on towing with this truck? Here is what you do.
Get a dyno sheet for both engines, and the weights of the trucks you are looking at. Figure the avg torque for 1k-3k RPMs for both motors. Divide the weight ofthe truck by the avg torq for its applicable motor. the one with the lowest ratio is the better for towing, plain and simple.
Numbers should be around 1:15 1 ft lb for every 15lb veh weight.
Get a dyno sheet for both engines, and the weights of the trucks you are looking at. Figure the avg torque for 1k-3k RPMs for both motors. Divide the weight ofthe truck by the avg torq for its applicable motor. the one with the lowest ratio is the better for towing, plain and simple.
Numbers should be around 1:15 1 ft lb for every 15lb veh weight.
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OH looks we opened up a half ton pickup war here. Lots of 
. Hey Ford wins on one count it will outlast any truck on the road today. Hold up better in the long run. What else matters. Have a good day
. Hey Ford wins on one count it will outlast any truck on the road today. Hold up better in the long run. What else matters. Have a good day
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From: 3rd Rock
Originally Posted by Jimmy Dean
You planning on towing with this truck? Here is what you do.
Get a dyno sheet for both engines, and the weights of the trucks you are looking at. Figure the avg torque for 1k-3k RPMs for both motors. Divide the weight ofthe truck by the avg torq for its applicable motor. the one with the lowest ratio is the better for towing, plain and simple.
Numbers should be around 1:15 1 ft lb for every 15lb veh weight.
Get a dyno sheet for both engines, and the weights of the trucks you are looking at. Figure the avg torque for 1k-3k RPMs for both motors. Divide the weight ofthe truck by the avg torq for its applicable motor. the one with the lowest ratio is the better for towing, plain and simple.
Numbers should be around 1:15 1 ft lb for every 15lb veh weight.
