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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 12:16 PM
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I am a big fan or putting ion my own fluids and filters as an immediate first step when buying a used vehicle....unless I know the previous owner personally.

Just an fyi - P0401 could ALSO be a dirty (or bad) IAT2 sensor, so you might check that.
While the previous owner seemed knowledgeable on Ford, I was not comforted by the fact that the last oil change was done at a shop. There is no indication of what oil was used. I will check the IAT sensor as well. Thanks.

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It is a toss up on an entire new HFCM vs just clean the old one up. I guess my recommendation would be for you to start cleaning it up - first remove the manifold, and post pictures of what you see.
Sure. Will do.

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The only transmission flush that will work is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie4KdJCWDHE

Don't forget to change that bypass filter on the transmission fluid!! It is the more important one of the two.
Will watch the video and then take appropriate steps to change the filter along with the fluids. Thanks.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by unleashd
B1676 - The PO had replaced the +ve terminal on the passenger side cable as it had broken. I suspect that there are other breakages in the cables. While the truck does fire up easily, it does feel like the starter needs some more ooomph to tun the engine over. A new complete cable set has been ordered from Performance Custom Cables. I have ordered a new voltmeter and will monitor the health of the batteries to see it it warrants a new alternator.
May not hurt to upgrade the starter to a 6.4/6.7 starter. Recommend this to all of my buddies with 7.3's and 6.0's. Those HEUI systems LOVE the higher cranking RPM's that the newer starters put out. A very worthwhile upgrade IMO.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 08:31 PM
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May not hurt to upgrade the starter to a 6.4/6.7 starter. Recommend this to all of my buddies with 7.3's and 6.0's. Those HEUI systems LOVE the higher cranking RPM's that the newer starters put out. A very worthwhile upgrade IMO.
I will look into it.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 02:08 PM
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Been doing some reading on the forum for the last couple of days. Here's how I intend to go about baselining the truck. First, the NEEDS to be done list.
  1. CEL Codes & dash lights
    1. P0676 & P0678 - 4 New Motorcraft glowplugs have been ordered. 2 will be installed, 2 will be spares. The old one will be discarded
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  4. Transmission, Transfer case - Flush & Fill: What is the recommended oil for this? Need to search the forum too
#1-3 - For the glow plugs you'll probably want a new harness and the tool for removal. They can be a bear to get out, especially without breaking them. Spray with penetrant, push in/out to try and loosen the o-ring. On the passenger side remove the fender liner, not hard and makes access 100% better. Driverside the fender is much harder so I leave the liner. While you're in there check the exhaust manifolds for leaks. They don't have gaskets from the factory and will eventually leak over time. Just did mine.
https://www.xtremediesel.com/lisle-3...hoClmQQAvD_BwE

#5 - Mercon LV is the go-to for Trans and Transfer Case. Pages and pages of threads about this...but LV is the one. Mercon V for the power-steering only. NOT in the transfer case!

If you can manage to get a look at the HPOP we're all curious. Its under the turbo so pretty hard to see. In another thread a guy has a very similar build excursion with the throttle plate (04 engine) but the 05 HPOP. Which is good cause the 05 pump has been a LOT more durable.

04 Pump, you don't see the pump, just the connection for the IPR. Pic below is looking from the back of the engine forwards:


05 Pump, you can see the big oval top of the pump sticking out. This pic is looking at the front of the engine, looking backwards.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 02:45 PM
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One observation/opinion - everything I have seen indicates that the 05 HPOP is what dictates an '05 engine (that and the number "5" stamped on the wavy oil rail end caps, and the "dividers" in the intake manifold EGR port). Looking over the list of changes for '05, clearly the HPOP and oil rails are the most critical of the updates. If the thread is the one that I believe you are referring to (the owner has an '05 Ex), I agree that that engine does have several '04 accessories in it (which IMO was done to use up spare inventory, but who knows for sure, lol). The E-series is an example of required mix-and-match to make the engine fit. All the E-series (04 and up) use the 04 front cover. As if the 6.0L isn't complicated enough .......
 
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 08:23 AM
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Thank you Dave @FiveOJester & Mark @bismic for these pointers. I will print these out when I step out to work on the Excursion. Please keep them coming.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 09:07 AM
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Oh man - an eager learner! I will post a few more links below, but these are all in the Tech Folder. It might just be easier to have the ones to start with all in this single thread for you.

The '05 "coffee table book" link I posted earlier contains a lot of good information, but a person really needs to start w/ the '03 version, and then read the '04 version to get a complete picture.

The '03 book:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-man...eTableBook.pdf

The '04 book:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-manu...ble%20Book.pdf

A few more:

FICM information:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-manuals/FICM.pdf

Turbo information:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-manu...er%20Guide.pdf

2005 Hard Start Diagnostics sheet:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-manuals/2005_Hard_Start_No_Start_Diag_Sheet.pdf
 
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FiveOJester
#1-3 - For the glow plugs you'll probably want a new harness and the tool for removal. They can be a bear to get out, especially without breaking them.
Should I replace all 8 glow plugs for good measure? Or just the 2 that are throwing up codes? What's the recommendation? I have ordered the tool to pull the harness.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 09:20 AM
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Should I replace all 8 glow plugs for good measure? Or just the 2 that are throwing up codes? What's the recommendation? I have ordered the tool to pull the harness.
Working in a CAT diesel shop, if we replace one we normally recommend the customer have them all replaced. Often that doesn't happen because "only one has a problem, so why would I pay extra money?" and then the same machine comes in a few months later with the same problem and an angry customer because "you didn't fix the problem". Well, we DID, and told you what we recommend so as not to have a comeback, and you didn't listen. Same logic with injectors on specific engines. If you have the budget and the time, I would say do it all at once. Nothing is worse then having to come back to the same problem because another of another failure, in my opinion.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Junkers456
Working in a CAT diesel shop, if we replace one we normally recommend the customer have them all replaced. Often that doesn't happen because "only one has a problem, so why would I pay extra money?" and then the same machine comes in a few months later with the same problem and an angry customer because "you didn't fix the problem". Well, we DID, and told you what we recommend so as not to have a comeback, and you didn't listen. Same logic with injectors on specific engines. If you have the budget and the time, I would say do it all at once. Nothing is worse then having to come back to the same problem because another of another failure, in my opinion.
I ordered and received 4 glow plugs. Will order 4 more before I start the work.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 10:04 AM
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Just to reconfirm, Motorcraft ZD32 is the correct par number? That is what comes up on Rockauto.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 10:49 AM
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Just to reconfirm, Motorcraft ZD32 is the correct par number? That is what comes up on Rockauto.
I believe so, yes. ANWBL has the same listed for a 2005 Ex at $20.54.
 
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i installed new batteries today. I’ve had good experience with Costco Interstate. Fired up Forscan and cleared codes once. At first try, the CEL went away. Started the truck and idled it to operating temp. The light stayed off. Went in and attended some meetings, came out and started the truck. The CEL is on, but the EGR valve fault has gone away. Here’s the latest log from Forscan.
 
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Gathering all the supplies to do a coolant flush on my new to me 2005 6.0 Excursion. Been watching the tube a lot but would like someone with experience watching over my shoulder. Anyone around NoVA (~50 miles around 20171) that can guide me through the procedure? I can come to your place or we can do this in my driveway. Appreciate it👍
 
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Ran some tests on Forscan today and captured some screenshots while driving. Should I be worried about the delta increasing? Also, the ECT stayed in that 174-176 range. Also, FICM voltage fluctuated b/w 47.50 and 48.00. Is that good?





These were taken on a short 5 mile ride after a longer 20 mile ride followed by an hour of cooling down. I'll try to capture more screenshots on a longer drive.
 
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