Fire them all.

Leftist economic guerilla terrorists

 

"Pollution" made in America? What does this mean? We have some of the most stringent clean air laws of any production based society in the free world. Polluting the environment is not our problem. Polluting the right to think freely is. And I agree, let capitalism runs it's course and it will weed out the failures and raise up the success stories. It's a very simple model - good work = good pay, that's it. I'm not sure why we make it so difficult.

 

I like that last statement and would like to rephrase that.

What value in a product does the union bring to a customer?

I'm not sure in the history of unions that they've ever benefitted the customer. I may be wrong I'm not a historian, but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn once.

 

What value has the C-suite ever brought to a company? Capitalism will die out in a bloody revolution or another civil war. Its inevitable, just as commmunism is a failure, so is capitalism. The body just doesn't know its dead already.

 

I do not support the UAW. They are a nonfactor in my purchasing choice. I wont by the Tesla Cybertruck because it is not made with Union labor, I won't buy it because I do not like the design. My truck was designed by non-union design engineers. My engine was made by non union labor. My truck happened to be assembled with union labor, and I do not consider that to be a positive for build quality. Lord knows they could have done better in some areas.

Believe it or not is is possible to like the end product despite the labor organizations that were involved with building it.

I look at what they have come to the table and asked for, an cannot help but laugh. 46% raise over 4 year. 32 hour work week for 40 hours pay, signing bonuses, profit sharing bonuses, cost of living pay increases beyond the 46%. All for what is mostly unskilled labor (We can train you how to do this job on the line in 2 days or less).

 

Yup. Most of those jobs are simplistic in nature yet employees have been brainwashed to believe they are one step below neurosurgeons

 

When companies become so big they impact America it’s a big deal. When the union can shut them down, ups for example, and stop important stuff like pharmaceuticals and integral parts it’s even bigger of a deal. Railways, airlines, trucking…it becomes national security.

also making sweetheart deals going into the next few years of a downturn isn’t a good idea for the workers, but the union heads don’t care, they just way to increase power and that happens because the workers pay them and they head to dc.

 

He supports the workers by buying the trucks that they make.

 

I have no idea how you can be against corruption and support the unions.

 

I worked several Union jobs in my work career. Some good and some bad.
the only real benefit the union gave a good employee like myself was the ability to decline overtime and not be forced to work. I can remember friends that couldn't get Saturday off because they would get fired for refusing to come in. Now that is control and power thiat isn't becoming of an employer

 

Capitalism isn't perfect mainly because humans aren't perfect but it's damn sure brought us the comforts we all enjoy today.

 

Yeah anyone saying that definitely has not traveled much, at least not out of the first world.

But sure, greedy western consumers and businesses export production to places with literally zero pollution or labor laws. Then put a huge canister under their truck to keep the air clean they breathe around themselves. Yay

It has turned into some self proselytizing religion. Flying a private jet to global warming conferences

 

That's the short answer. To stereotype one or the other, lump them into groups and toss out blanket statements regarding either really serves no purpose other than to expose one's own bias.
Been on both sides of the union/non union coin. Good workers and slackers abound for both.

 

and eventually people(hedge funds) and unions find ways to abuse capitalism.

you all keep saying they make it comfortable for us and we’re supporting them by buying their products… there is no choice, we have to. Unions infiltrated every important sector. And when I’m saying ‘unions’ I’m talking about the corporate level, the politically influential big wigs using the workers. Like the stupid thing posted above “why don’t you buy Tesla?” What’s the non union equivalent to an f350 I can use for my business?
I would absolutely buy Nissan or Toyota if they could pull 15-16k. I live on the border of Ohio, ky is basically a non union state and Ohio is deeply union. My wife’s kid is in the elevator union(it’s got it’s ups and down) and before that it was the carpenter union. Over 10 years of all that. It’s a huge soap opera. People constantly quitting to go to new shops. And, in the next few years of this down turn, tons will be layed off, and when that runsout, the traveling starts. You wanna work? Head 6 to 7 hours away. Le, municipal, power grid, mostly all controlled by union. And how does the union stay in power, regulations lobbied in dc. Keep constricting America with senseless legislation, mainly through dot and Osha.

it had its place in the day I suppose, but it’s now hinging on a national security risk. Non union can be great but it’s defeated in a lot of places and not able to thrive because of the Amazon-esque union take over.

it is what it is, but I do think the split is getting closer, and wile the the fight isn’t necessarily union driven, it’s driven by the ones the union supports and will probably see a change.

 

Just for the record, my answer was clear and concise...

Sincerely,
The No Spin Zone