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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by spearchucker9215
Do you know if the 2020 6.7 had the same CP4.2?

I did all those things and had fuel pump failure in my driveway at 17,242 on the odometer. Two different labs tested my fuel, each with the same result: only diesel in the sample.
I know the 20s plus have more fuel pressure than us 11 to 16 guys (29k PSI). Not sure about the 17 to 19 guys. I do remember hearing that the 15 CP4.2 was modified for more flow for more power from the 11 to 14s.

Just found this:

https://kcturbos.com/products/cp4-fu...20FC3Z-9A543-A

I think I heard the latest gen of 6.7 PSD that the fuel pressure is 37k PSI I believe. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than myself will respond.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by spearchucker9215
Do you know if the 2020 6.7 had the same CP4.2?

I did all those things and had fuel pump failure in my driveway at 17,242 on the odometer. Two different labs tested my fuel, each with the same result: only diesel in the sample.

what fuel lube did you use , how often, what concentration?


I use opti lube, double the dose rate, always.

 
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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 07:16 PM
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I'm not sure

I had another shop pull the regulator. The picture proves that no metal is present, however the dealer mechanic says that the tiny speck of something is proof that my fuel system is failing and I will keep loosing injectors.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2022 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
what fuel lube did you use , how often, what concentration?


I use opti lube, double the dose rate, always.

Hot Shots, as directed.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 10:08 AM
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So yeah, CP4 is still a problem and now so are those 2020+ 10 speed transmissions. Way too many failures on those compared to the old 6R140. Hate to say it but Cummins/Aisin is probably the way to go as long as it ain’t a 19 or 20 with the CP4. (They recalled them all and will fix it for free though) Yeah they're built in Mexico which don’t sit right but that would be my final 2 cents on the matter.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 10:42 AM
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So yeah, CP4 is still a problem and now so are those 2020+ 10 speed transmissions. Way too many failures on those compared to the old 6R140. Hate to say it but Cummins/Aisin is probably the way to go as long as it ain’t a 19 or 20 with the CP4. Yeah they are built in Mexico which don’t sit right but that would be my final 2 cents on the matter.
As is the 6.7L PowerStroke diesel engine.. So where do we win?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Desert Don
As is the 6.7L PowerStroke diesel engine.. So where do we win?
By going with your gut feeling and if it turns out to be right, you will know you made the best choice you could with the given knowledge. If it turns out to be wrong, you will know you made the best choice you could with the given knowledge.

Also, keeping in mind everything designed or built by humans can and will fail at some point.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandonpdx
So yeah, CP4 is still a problem and now so are those 2020+ 10 speed transmissions. Way too many failures on those compared to the old 6R140. Hate to say it but Cummins/Aisin is probably the way to go as long as it ain’t a 19 or 20 with the CP4. Yeah they are built in Mexico which don’t sit right but that would be my final 2 cents on the matter.

A remote chance of a cp4 failure or a guaranteed failure of front ujoints and wheel bearings.
A chance of a transmission failure or a known issue with ball joints.
I like my chances with Ford.

We have a Cummins with 100k and change and it has gotten several sets of ujoints already and a set of balljoints
I have no desire to have one.

Sure the in-line six engine sounds like all diesels should, but I like how smooth and quiet my truck is.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2022 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
A remote chance of a cp4 failure or a guaranteed failure of front ujoints and wheel bearings.
A chance of a transmission failure or a known issue with ball joints.
I like my chances with Ford.

We have a Cummins with 100k and change and it has gotten several sets of ujoints already and a set of balljoints
I have no desire to have one.

Sure the in-line six engine sounds like all diesels should, but I like how smooth and quiet my truck is.
Ford probably uses better components with all that stuff and none of them make a perfect truck. That stuff wouldn't worry me like the kind of poop storm a CP4 gone bad will cause or like what happened to ole' girl here and some of the comments are interesting also:

 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz

I use opti lube, double the dose rate, always.
I use Summer+ in every tank and recently grabbed a gallon of XL and have been adding a shot of that to the dose. Cheap insurance in my mind.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
A remote chance of a cp4 failure or a guaranteed failure of front ujoints and wheel bearings.
A chance of a transmission failure or a known issue with ball joints.
I like my chances with Ford.

We have a Cummins with 100k and change and it has gotten several sets of ujoints already and a set of balljoints
I have no desire to have one.

Sure the in-line six engine sounds like all diesels should, but I like how smooth and quiet my truck is.
I wouldn't buy a Dodge vehicle if it was the only vehicle on the lot. I usually buy Toyota, Mazda, or Honda in that order and would have if any of them made a full size diesel truck.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by doczenith1
I use Summer+ in every tank and recently grabbed a gallon of XL and have been adding a shot of that to the dose. Cheap insurance in my mind.
Absolutely. I use XL (purple) for most of the year and Winter (blue) during the really cold months.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 02:26 PM
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I wouldn't buy a Dodge vehicle if it was the only vehicle on the lot. I usually buy Toyota, Mazda, or Honda in that order and would have if any of them made a full size diesel truck.
Strange how this works……I can go on a RAM or GM forum and read the same thing about Ford!!!
As far as the nipponese brands go, my experience is that they pay rags like consumer reports more. Had one turdota and pushed it off a cliff.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
Absolutely. I use XL (purple) for most of the year and Winter (blue) during the really cold months.
Don't see any claims it prevent's CP4 failures. Is the presumption improved lubricity prevents catastrophic failure? I can see it extending the life span for a normal operating pump, but not preventing the roller lifter from rotating and causing catastrophic failure. Curious to what your logic is.


 
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
I know the 20s plus have more fuel pressure than us 11 to 16 guys (29k PSI). Not sure about the 17 to 19 guys. I do remember hearing that the 15 CP4.2 was modified for more flow for more power from the 11 to 14s.

Just found this:

https://kcturbos.com/products/cp4-fu...20FC3Z-9A543-A

I think I heard the latest gen of 6.7 PSD that the fuel pressure is 37k PSI I believe. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than myself will respond.
  • 2020 CP4.2 Fuel system changes
  • Fuel
    • New, higher pressure (2,482 BAR, 36,000 PSI) fuel injection system (2019 was 2,068 bar, 30,000 psi)
    • This 20% increase in injection pressure increases fuel atomization for more complete burn
    • A more complete burn increases fuel economy, and reduces emissions
    • Updated high pressure fuel pump to produce increase in common rail pressure
    • New fuel rails and lines to support more pressure and flow than ever before
    • New piezo fuel injectors capable of injecting up to 8 times per single power stroke
    • New fuel spray pattern built into the injector tips
 
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