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Seems like the Our Purple One already knows the difference.
He has a 1999 leaf spring design.
A 2001 model has a different front leaf spring design.
We actually have been over this whole leaf spring thing, not just a little ways back, but a long ways back too.
My 2000 model year springs have gaps between the upper and lower leaves just as large as Hyakkimaru's.
Subsequent model years did not.
I’m not sure who our purple one is. I’m trying to figure out if you’re trying or attempting on insulting me.
here is my 2001 and my 1999. Both have identical leaf sprig design. One is a x code one is a v code. Ford may of made a design change mid year but in no way was there a absolute like you stated. My 2001 is all stock. My 99 has had its sprigs replaced but the original ones were identical in every way with the exception of the rating. I went from v to x code and that was only because I I put a huge winch bumper on it and it was sagging the at the time 20 year old sprigs.
I have not seen one F series that had that huge a gap between sprigs. Maybe it’s a trim line specific option. We dot even know the rating of the sprigs. He coke have two different rated work my codes for all you know. Every one I worked on and it’s been a few has always had the tight end sprig pack.
Considering his truck is pieced together from multiple trucks we don’t even know if the sprigs are from the same truck. That bent sprig clamp can be a issue also. Both my trucks have clamps holding the ends and both leaf packs are tight.
Either way there is obviously something wrong if his truck is doing what it’s doing and I’m simply trying to help the guy out. If he has bent suspension components they will never get that truck aligned right. 2001 rear of spring 2001 front of spring 1999 rear of spring 1999 front of spring 2001 mid spring axle mounting
I’m not sure who our purple one is. I’m trying to figure out if you’re trying or attempting on insulting me.
here is my 2001 and my 1999. Both have identical leaf sprig design. One is a x code one is a v code. Ford may of made a design change mid year but in no way was there a absolute like you stated. My 2001 is all stock. My 99 has had its sprigs replaced but the original ones were identical in every way with the exception of the rating. I went from v to x code and that was only because I I put a huge winch bumper on it and it was sagging the at the time 20 year old sprigs.
I have not seen one F series that had that huge a gap between sprigs. Maybe it’s a trim line specific option. We dot even know the rating of the sprigs. He coke have two different rated work my codes for all you know. Every one I worked on and it’s been a few has always had the tight end sprig pack.
Considering his truck is pieced together from multiple trucks we don’t even know if the sprigs are from the same truck. That bent sprig clamp can be a issue also. Both my trucks have clamps holding the ends and both leaf packs are tight.
Either way there is obviously something wrong if his truck is doing what it’s doing and I’m simply trying to help the guy out. If he has bent suspension components they will never get that truck aligned right. 2001 rear of spring 2001 front of spring 1999 rear of spring 1999 front of spring 2001 mid spring axle mounting
He was not insulting you in any way. It is a long-lasting joke about me being a purple princess. Anytime I reply in the middle of a message where it won't highlight my response I write it in purple just to keep the joke going. He was not insulting you in anyway.
As for the leaf springs, I understand your confusion and why you're worried but please do not worry about the leaf springs because there is nothing wrong with the way they are. They are off of a early 99 truck. If you know anything about the early 99 super duties, you will know it didn't last long before they updated to new things.
I just want to put out there that my truck was not pieced together from multiple trucks I took the front end off of one truck and put it on mine. The springs came off of the same truck as the front axle. I actually got it from Georgia and we took the entire front end off of the truck in one piece. Put it in the back of my truck and drove it home. The leaf springs were still attached to the axle along with all the brackets and bolts they were all assembled in the back of my truck. I have pictures on my phone somewhere. It was quite a sight to see the entire assembled front end sitting on the ground on blocks.
Nobody is upset at you in any way and I am very grateful that you are helping. If you watched either of the two videos I posted you will see that I found my lift kit bracket and spring hanger bent. I'm sure that is part of my problem. I think I'm going to start with that pmf lift bracket kit to delete my bent lift bracket and the OEM spring hanger because I'm having trouble finding one anyway. I think that is a good course of action to take at my current point in time. I've never messed with pmf parts before so I will do some research first but I think that is my best course of action at the current moment. Thank you for your help!
i only worked on one early 1999 in 20 years and it was a buddy’s. I dont remember anything about the leaf sprigs even though I rebuilt his whole front axle.
if yiu were closer I would throw that thing on my rack and start pushing and pulling on thugs and see what we find.
ill look for those front sprig hangers. I can’t remember if they ended up in the scrap pile. I can’t see my 99s cause the bumper covers them. But if I throw it on the rack I can get a pic of the backside to see if that bend is there. I don’t think that’s your issue though.
as far as PMF those products are good. I bought a set of blocks for a buddy who wanted more lift on the back and I didn’t wanna stack blocks and a set of their air bag plates for a service truck I was tearing out the crappy axle bolted airbag mounting kit .
their stuff is stout
i only worked on one early 1999 in 20 years and it was a buddy’s. I dont remember anything about the leaf sprigs even though I rebuilt his whole front axle.
if yiu were closer I would throw that thing on my rack and start pushing and pulling on thugs and see what we find.
ill look for those front sprig hangers. I can’t remember if they ended up in the scrap pile. I can’t see my 99s cause the bumper covers them. But if I throw it on the rack I can get a pic of the backside to see if that bend is there. I don’t think that’s your issue though.
as far as PMF those products are good. I bought a set of blocks for a buddy who wanted more lift on the back and I didn’t wanna stack blocks and a set of their air bag plates for a service truck I was tearing out the crappy axle bolted airbag mounting kit .
their stuff is stout
Glad everybody's on better terms now :-)
it may not be the problem but it is a problem. I know for a fact the lift kit bracket is bent. I can't tell if the factory hanger is bent or not. But either way that pmf kit completely removes the factory stuff so I won't have to worry about it anymore if I go with that option. I've had that side of my cab leaning down an inch lower than the passenger side for a while now thought I was seeing things. Is the bent lift kit bracket causing my alignment to be off? I don't know. But I do know it is a problem. I have to replace it eventually anyway so I will start there and probably just have an alignment done after that and see how things go. Other than that unless I have a bent axle or tie rod or something like that I don't know what else could be messing my alignment up so bad. I've already replaced the hubs and all the seals, ball joints, from what I can tell the axle is not bent, the knuckles seem fine, other than this bent corner on the bracket, I don't know what else could be wrong. I do think it's a good place to start though don't you?
I have a picture of the donor truck somewhere, but the driver side frame took a head-on collision bending the driver side frame outwards a bit. So it's not surprising that the hanger/lift kit setup got bent on that corner because it totaled the frame.
Replacing bent stuff is always a good idea. If the lift bracket is bent it’s going to automatically impact the alignment of the sprig hanger to the sprig eye which in turn will impact the locating point of the sprig eye which will impact the location of the axle. Sort of a domino effect. Was the truck hit or bought like that?
sorry I don’t know the history of the vehicle so if im hashing our old stuff just pm me the cliff notes
Replacing bent stuff is always a good idea. If the lift bracket is bent it’s going to automatically impact the alignment of the sprig hanger to the sprig eye which in turn will impact the locating point of the sprig eye which will impact the location of the axle. Sort of a domino effect. Was the truck hit or bought like that?
sorry I don’t know the history of the vehicle so if im hashing our old stuff just pm me the cliff notes
Yeah so, when my truck was a 2wd, the front bushings were worn pretty bad and it was time for a front end rebuild but instead of doing that, I decided to convert to a 4x4 which of course I didn't know you could do until Jason told me you could cuz he was about to do the same job on the same exact truck I have. So it just so happened that one of our forum friends from Georgia had a motor go out in his truck and decided to buy a wrecked truck to get the motor out of. Well in exchange for a day of my labor helping him disassembling and removing the cab, the bed, so on so forth, he said I can have the whole four wheel drive front end off of it so that we could scrap the frame. And so it basically was a parts truck that he had bought with a totaled frame. The truck had been in a front end impact moving pretty quick from what I understand and it definitely bent the driver side frame out a good few inches. It also pushed the front drive shaft into the transfer case breaking the transfer case. Well cracking it anyway. Which is why I don't have a transfer case at the moment. So in short, the truck I took my front end off of had been in a wreck that totaled and bent the frame. My truck has not been in any wrecks bad enough to damage anything like that. I got ran off the road on my way back from Georgia and hit a big pothole going about 45/50. That was bad enough to bust my already worn out ball joints and mess up my hub on the driver side which is the side that hit the pothole. I think that about covers everything. It's been a bit of a bumpy ride LOL
I could send you a link to the 4x4 conversion forum that I started when doing this conversion but, I think it got to some ridiculous number of pages. I feel like it was 60 to 80 pages long or something. Definitely not the longest on our FTE forums but it was quite long and I don't think you want to sit and read through the whole thing unless you want to have a laugh and read through a bunch of information.
Have you put a good size pry bar in those front spring hangers to see if you can get any movement side to side or back and forth? Might be worth unloading the front by putting frame on stands and trying, they just seem like an unstable design. I forgot, did you ever pull a tape from axle centerline of front and back hubs?
Have you put a good size pry bar in those front spring hangers to see if you can get any movement side to side or back and forth? Might be worth unloading the front by putting frame on stands and trying, they just seem like an unstable design. I forgot, did you ever pull a tape from axle centerline of front and back hubs?
I did have the truck suspended by the frame with the tires off to wiggle everything around but I did not use a pry bar to wiggle the hangers. I did pull a tape from front to rear center of axle. Same measurements on both sides. There isn't much of a point in trying to wiggle the driver side because it is bent anyway I would think?
I did have the truck suspended by the frame with the tires off to wiggle everything around but I did not use a pry bar to wiggle the hangers. I did pull a tape from front to rear center of axle. Same measurements on both sides. There isn't much of a point in trying to wiggle the driver side because it is bent anyway I would think?
I personally don't think that slight bend is causing an issue, I'm focused more on the rust where those hangers push up into the factory hangers, that appears to me as possible movement spot. You can probably straighten out the bend some with a good crescent wrench. Its hard to speculate without being able to put hands on it.
Is it pulling to the right on all roads? Remember the crown of the road varies alot but generally slopes to the right. If your able to find a less traveled road have you tried running over the middle of the crown to see if its still pulling?
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