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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 11:30 AM
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That's my suspicion, are they max 65 psi?

On the 37 Rt's I had on my 2019 i got away with 55-60 up front with properly sized wheels. Truck weighed a little over 9k empty
 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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I wasn't sure if you were talking about the front or rear shackle so I took pictures of both



is this a conversion from a coil suspension 4x or rear drive to a 4x leaf sprig? Not sure if you mentioned it.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 04:18 PM
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He converted a 2wd to 4x4 by bolting in leaf spring stuff up front. It had a drop hanger kit on it already. Those front drop spring hangers make me say hmmmmmmmm
 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76
He converted a 2wd to 4x4 by bolting in leaf spring stuff up front. It had a drop hanger kit on it already. Those front drop spring hangers make me say hmmmmmmmm
I’ll take some pics of mine. I think I have a extra front set of the factory springs hangers. Pretty sure your rear shackles are in the wrong spot. And your sprigs are split in the back and your sprig clamp is messed up. Your stuff may be bolted wrong and causing your issues.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 07:10 PM
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I’ll take some pics of mine. I think I have a extra front set of the factory springs hangers. Pretty sure your rear shackles are in the wrong spot. And your sprigs are split in the back and your sprig clamp is messed up. Your stuff may be bolted wrong and causing your issues.
They look different because I have a 3-in lift kit. My rear shackle hangs below the frame instead of inside the frame. And the front has a drop bracket.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 07:32 PM
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They look different because I have a 3-in lift kit. My rear shackle hangs below the frame instead of inside the frame. And the front has a drop bracket.
yeah I understand you have a lift kit but it isn’t sitting right. I’ve lifted Superduty trucks before. I have a 6 inch lift with dual fox shocks sitting in my shed.
that split leaf sprig isn’t looking good either. That’s a huge gap at the end of that sprig eye. So it’s either effed up or something is twisting that sprig .
Did you install a adjustable track bar or are you running a stock track bar? Is there a drop bracket for the track bar or still the factory location.

if there is no drop bracket or some home made or wrong bracket and you’re running the factory bar in the stock bolt hole/location …. That’s gonna shift your axle over to one side and that’s gonna be a issue when you align it and driving it’s gonna have some issues.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76
He converted a 2wd to 4x4 by bolting in leaf spring stuff up front. It had a drop hanger kit on it already. Those front drop spring hangers make me say hmmmmmmmm
I am a bit suspicious of the spring hangers myself. The truck has not been wearing any more tires but it is still pulling to the right. I need to recheck my toe in.

!!!!! You know what, while I was sitting here writing this, I was looking at those front shackles. I think the one on the driver side which is the side that took the hit on the donor truck, the drop bracket for the lift kit looks to have a very slight bend IN it. I think the whole leaf spring shackle, lift shackle and factory shackle are bent. I could be seeing things so I'm going to post a vid.

 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001F350dualwheel
yeah I understand you have a lift kit but it isn’t sitting right. I’ve lifted Superduty trucks before. I have a 6 inch lift with dual fox shocks sitting in my shed.
that split leaf sprig isn’t looking good either. That’s a huge gap at the end of that sprig eye. So it’s either effed up or something is twisting that sprig .
Did you install a adjustable track bar or are you running a stock track bar? Is there a drop bracket for the track bar or still the factory location.

if there is no drop bracket or some home made or wrong bracket and you’re running the factory bar in the stock bolt hole/location …. That’s gonna shift your axle over to one side and that’s gonna be a issue when you align it and driving it’s gonna have some issues.
It's a stock track bar that was lengthened for the lift kit. We have been over the whole leaf spring thing a little ways back. I just posted another video right before I'm responding to this. I would say I need new leaf springs on that side but the other side has a gap in it too. Both sides have a little Gap at the end.

I don't think that is a problem but, that bent leaf spring shackle definitely is. It's in the video I just posted a minute ago.




 
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Old Jun 29, 2022 | 08:22 PM
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All right my cheapest way out. If I drop the lift kit I need extra parts to convert the rest of the truck back to a stock height. So, cheapest way that I see of doing this is replace my leaf springs on the driver side, replace the leaf spring mount, and replace my lift bracket on that side. I'm having a lot of trouble finding a factory mount for the front leaf spring. I may have to go to a junkyard. I guess I could also get the leaf spring from a junkyard as well. The only real crazy thing that I don't know how I'm going to get is a new lift bracket. Being as I don't think they're sold individually and I have no idea what brand this lift kit was.

In other news, I have gotten tired of my transmission leak so I got some anaerobic permatex which is what Ford recommends you use for the flange gasket / lack thereof of gasket. And I pulled my shifter and shifter boot off. My shifter has been super loose too so it was a win-win situation to take it off and replace the bushings. When I say super loose I mean like three or four inches of movement either way in gear. Which was way too much but I just figured something was worn out like bushings or whatnot. Well I pulled it off to use that gasket maker and what I found was my new inner shift boot that seals the shifter to the transmission itself that I just replaced a year ago is busted and my entire shift tower was completely loose about to fall off. I did not use loctite on these bolts and I guess I should have. I didn't need a single tool to take the shift tower off. Every single bolt was halfway out. I mean every single bolt. I have a new inner shift boot on the way and I will take everything back apart and replace the inner shift boot again along with gasket maker for the flange. I have got to say, oh my God, the shifter feels so tight. There's like a half inch of play either way in gear now. And my notorious grinding of the synchronizer going into 3rd / 4th gear (the gear straight up from The Middle depending on if you consider it third or fourth depending on if granny gear is considered first) that grinding is now gone. Who would have thought a loose shift tower would make my transmission grind going into gear. I never would have guessed it. It is such a nicer transmission to shift now that I have a tight shift tower. I can't believe it's been that loose for this long and I should have put loctite on the bolts. All in all I think I have a lot of good news today. My transmission is not grinding going into gear I was just a *******, my frame is not Bent I was just a *******, my axle is not Bent I was just a *******, and all I have to do is replace a leaf spring pack and mounting bracket for the leaf spring. Still don't know how I'm going to find a lift bracket.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 12:22 AM
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I think my leaf spring may be bent as well. I don't think it is bad enough where I need a new leaf spring though. It seems to have a little bit of flexing towards the eyelet. I don't think it will matter though. I think the big thing is that lift bracket and main mount. I have been trying for a while to find another one of those main OEM leaf spring hangers but just cannot find one. I found some used ones on eBay but nothing new anywhere. I might try the local junkyard and if I can get the bracket cheap enough I may even grab the leaf spring pack too. Who knows maybe I'll run into a lift bracket.

It will cost me more to revert to stock as it would to fix my current lift kit with new brackets. I found a couple of lift kits that are a lot better than what I have. Instead of having a bracket that bolts into the original leaf spring eyelet hole and having a new hole lower down, it's a whole new bracket that bolts to the frame that is just taller than stock. I can buy a set of those for about 300 bucks. Something like this but I probably wouldn't go with this one because I've never heard of pmf. But this style of bracket would solve both of my bent bracket problems in one go. And it would be cheaper than buying everything I need to revert to stock. And if I don't need leaf springs, all I would need would be these brackets of a better brand. If I can find some. Rough country has a 2-in kit just like this but no 3-in kit. Also here is a video of my leaf spring.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/15491532721...UaAgAVEALw_wcB
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
I think my leaf spring may be bent as well. I don't think it is bad enough where I need a new leaf spring though. It seems to have a little bit of flexing towards the eyelet. I don't think it will matter though. I think the big thing is that lift bracket and main mount. I have been trying for a while to find another one of those main OEM leaf spring hangers but just cannot find one. I found some used ones on eBay but nothing new anywhere. I might try the local junkyard and if I can get the bracket cheap enough I may even grab the leaf spring pack too. Who knows maybe I'll run into a lift bracket.

It will cost me more to revert to stock as it would to fix my current lift kit with new brackets. I found a couple of lift kits that are a lot better than what I have. Instead of having a bracket that bolts into the original leaf spring eyelet hole and having a new hole lower down, it's a whole new bracket that bolts to the frame that is just taller than stock. I can buy a set of those for about 300 bucks. Something like this but I probably wouldn't go with this one because I've never heard of pmf. But this style of bracket would solve both of my bent bracket problems in one go. And it would be cheaper than buying everything I need to revert to stock. And if I don't need leaf springs, all I would need would be these brackets of a better brand. If I can find some. Rough country has a 2-in kit just like this but no 3-in kit. Also here is a video of my leaf spring.

https://youtu.be/pFEn6GSTF7Q

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15491532721...UaAgAVEALw_wcB
Ive bought stuff from PMF for a buddy who wanted their lift blocks.. I havent had a issue.

i doubt you’re gonna find a new OEM front spring hanger. I think I have a couple floating around here but they aren’t new. I’ll go look. I might of then them out in the metal scrap pile. It isn’t something that usually wears out.

as far as that spring …..dude that gap really bothers me. I’m at work right now so I can’t take any pics but tomorrow I’ll snap a few pics of my springs so you can see the difference. I have a set of X code Deaver springs n one and a set of stockers on my other truck. Both my trucks are stock
a bent leaf springs is gonna put pressure on the axL and it’s location especially when you got 2000 pounds of weight on top of it.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001F350dualwheel
as far as that spring …..dude that gap really bothers me. I’m at work right now so I can’t take any pics but tomorrow I’ll snap a few pics of my springs so you can see the difference. I have a set of X code Deaver springs n one and a set of stockers on my other truck. Both my trucks are stock
Originally Posted by Hyakkimaru
We have been over the whole leaf spring thing a little ways back.
Seems like the Our Purple One already knows the difference.

He has a 1999 leaf spring design.

A 2001 model has a different front leaf spring design.

We actually have been over this whole leaf spring thing, not just a little ways back, but a long ways back too.

My 2000 model year springs have gaps between the upper and lower leaves just as large as Hyakkimaru's.

Subsequent model years did not.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KubotaOrange76
That's my suspicion, are they max 65 psi?

On the 37 Rt's I had on my 2019 i got away with 55-60 up front with properly sized wheels. Truck weighed a little over 9k empty
I think they are 50psi max. I had inflated to 50psi when there was a massive amount of cargo in the bed and the tires barely deflected under the load.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001F350dualwheel
Ive bought stuff from PMF for a buddy who wanted their lift blocks.. I havent had a issue.

i doubt you’re gonna find a new OEM front spring hanger. I think I have a couple floating around here but they aren’t new. I’ll go look. I might of then them out in the metal scrap pile. It isn’t something that usually wears out.

as far as that spring …..dude that gap really bothers me. I’m at work right now so I can’t take any pics but tomorrow I’ll snap a few pics of my springs so you can see the difference. I have a set of X code Deaver springs n one and a set of stockers on my other truck. Both my trucks are stock
a bent leaf springs is gonna put pressure on the axL and it’s location especially when you got 2000 pounds of weight on top of it.
Well then just theoretically speaking, if I bought that pmf 3 inch lift set that I posted earlier, I wouldn't have to replace the OEM front spring hanger because that kit deletes that and just has a taller one then stock. To be honest that is a lot safer than what is on my truck now. Right now it has that two-piece kind of thing on where there is just an extension that bolts into the leaf spring pocket that moves the leaf spring bolt hole down three inches. Kind of a junkie design to begin with. If you think that pmf kit is trustworthy, I may just do that. Then I won't have to worry about the factory spring hanger. Because just as you said, that spring hanger is hell to come by. I found a couple on eBay for just shy of $300 a piece, but nothing new anywhere.

As for the Bent leaf spring, Y2K should have eased your mind with his last response. As he said and as I said, we have been over the whole leaf spring thing a few times. Actually, I 'think' when I was first doing my axle conversion I was concerned about those gaps myself and seeked guidance on the forum that we had going while I was doing my swap. I could be wrong, it's been a while it could have been just me trying to learn the difference between the different leaf spring codes. It's been too long and my memory decided to put that in the "I don't need to remember this" folder. And for some reason I forgot where I put that folder.....

 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Seems like the Our Purple One already knows the difference.

He has a 1999 leaf spring design.

A 2001 model has a different front leaf spring design.

We actually have been over this whole leaf spring thing, not just a little ways back, but a long ways back too.

My 2000 model year springs have gaps between the upper and lower leaves just as large as Hyakkimaru's.

Subsequent model years did not.
Of course I know, I'm the PURPLE one! You dare doubt me mortal?! I forgot what was it again?

We did definitely go over it a few times on different occasions. I don't remember the context 100% but, we definitely have been over it a few times!

So, how do you feel about that pmf kit? Do you think that would be a good idea? It would be cheaper than reverting to stock, and It would delete the factory spring hangers and remove that stupid bolt on in the eyelet extension that is currently bent. ​​​​​​​​​​​
 
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