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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sous
We have decided we will be applying for the EFS/WEX card sponsored by TDS Logistics. We are traveling a bit until the middle of December, so once we return home I will submit the online form and begin using the fuel card once I have received it. Luckily there is a Love's station at exit 4 on I-85 just across the SC border that I will probably start filling the truck up at. I have a 75 gallon capacity and drive just as far as that Love's station anyway to fill up since we live in the country of north GA.

I will cancel my Pilot/Flying J card since the savings from the TDS Logistics EFS card will almost certainly match or beat the Pilot/Flying J discount.

Thank you for your contributions for those that did and I will update in the future after I have some first hand experience with the EFS card.
Once you are signed up let me know and I will sign up and use you as a referral so you get the $25 credit.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by brandon_oma#692
Once you are signed up let me know and I will sign up and use you as a referral so you get the $25 credit.
Thanks for the offer sir! If your number hasn't changed I will shoot you a text when I have the card in hand.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2019 | 11:42 AM
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ditto, post here. I think I will do the same.
 
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Originally Posted by senix
ditto, post here. I think I will do the same.
I will do that Scott! That is a very generous offer.

I will post here mid-December when I have applied for the card and once it arrives I will update the thread as well. If you fellas cannot wait that long, I understand completely.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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Giving a SSN# to save $ on fuel is not worth the risk.

Just looked at the application, no request for SSI number, only bank info after you fill out the application. Going to read through the site a second time but so far I see no down side. I owned my own class 8 several years ago and am very familiar with the EFS card. This looks like it with a different name.

Thanks for the heads up Sous.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 01:01 PM
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Just looked at the application, no request for SSI number, only bank info after you fill out the application. Going to read through the site a second time but so far I see no down side. I owned my own class 8 several years ago and am very familiar with the EFS card. This looks like it with a different name.

Thanks for the heads up Sous.
From their site,
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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TSD Fuel card appliction

TSD Card Application from their web site. Not a word on SSI in the app.




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  • Address*Street Address Address Line 2 City State / Province / Region ZIP / Postal Code
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  • expedited processing-current standard processing time is 7-10 days
    • 48 hr processing + $20 fee (guarantees mailed within 48 hrs)
    • overnight shipping + $50 fee plus the 48 hr processing fee
    • Standard 7-14 day processing

    We send all cards regular mail by usps.
  • Authorization Agreement for ACH Debits

  • Bank Name*

  • Routing Number*

  • Bank Account-We will contact by phone

    Do not enter we will contact you when we process the application by phone.
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    • Checking
    • Savings

  • I (we) hereby authorize: TSD Logistics Inc. hereinafter called Company/Individual, to initiate debit entries and to initiate, if necessary, credit entries and adjustments for any debit entries in error to my (our) Checking and/or Savings account indicated above and the depository named above, hereinafter called DEPOSITORY, to debit and/or credit the same to such account. This authority is to remain in full force and effect until COMPANY/INDIVIDUAL has received written notification from me (or either of us) of its termination in such time and in such manner as to afford COMPANY/INDIVIDUAL and DEPOSITORY a reasonable opportunity to act on it. I understand that all purchases on my assigned EFS fuel card will be drafted from my account the schedule working day per contract. I also understand that there will be an additional $25 fee a day, each day the funds are unavailable. Written debit authorizations must provide that the Receiver may revoke the authorization only by notifying the Originator in the time and manner stated in the authorization. The reference to notification should be filled with a statement of the time and manner that notification must be given in order to provide company a reasonable opportunity to act on it (e.g., “In writing by mail to 7970 Hampton Road, Texarkana, TX 75503 that is received at least three (3) days prior to the proposed effective date of the termination of authorization”).
  • Consent*I agree to the above ACH Authorization.
  • Terms and Conditions

  • Terms and Conditions 1. Services. TSD Logistics Inc. will provide Customer with the services ("Services") described in Schedule A hereto. 2. Term and Termination. 2.1 Term. This Agreement commences on the date of TSD Logistics Inc. signature on the first page of this agreement ("Effective Date") and will extend for an initial term as indicated in Section Ill on the first page of this Agreement ("Initial Term"). Upon the expiration of the initial term, this agreement will automatically renew for successive twelve (12)-month terms (each a "Renewal Term"), unless TSD Logistics Inc. or customer gives the other party written notice of its intent not to renew this agreement at least ninety (30) days prior to the end of the Initial Term or then current renewal term. Collectively the initial term and renewal term are referred to as the 'Term" of this Agreement. 2.2 Termination. 2.2.1 Either party may terminate this agreement for any reason with 15 day written notice. 2.2.2 TSD Logistics Inc. may terminate this agreement or suspend all or a portion of its services immediately if (i) Customer's performance of its obligations or use of the services violates any federal, state or local law, rule or regulation; (ii) it reasonably determines that a material adverse change has occurred in customer's financial condition, or that such a change is reasonably likely to occur in the next twelve (12) months; (iii) Customer fails to pay any amount due within five (5) days of its due date; or (iv) based on its evaluation of customer's credit, financial condition or business prospects, that the extension of credit contemplated hereunder is not appropriate or viable. 2,2.3 Termination will not affect TSD Logistics Inc.’s right to recover any amounts for which customer is liable or obligated under this agreement. Termination will not affect customer's responsibility to pay any amounts for which it is liable or obligated in connection with the services provided under this Agreement. 3. Fees, Invoicing and Payment. 3.1 Fees. Customer will pay TSD Logistics Inc. for all expenditures, fees, additional service fees and special fees, costs and charges (collectively, "Fees") if any charge on the EFS cards issued to the customer. 3.2 Taxes. Customer will pay, or reimburse TSD Logistics Inc. for, any and all applicable sales, use, excise, franchise or other taxes (collectively, "Taxes"), whether federal, state or local, however designated, which are levied or imposed with respect to the services charge on the issued card(s). 3.3 Invoicing. Customer agrees that payments for fees are due and payable on the next business day after charges are incurred. TSD Logistics Inc. reserves the right to change customer's status to "default" if invoices are not paid in full or if customer's account is determined to be at risk due to payment history. If payment is not received (or if an invoice is not paid in full) on its due date, TSD Logistics Inc. will impose a late charge equal to $25 per day for every day past due date. Invoice discrepancies must be identified in writing by customer within thirty (30) days of the invoice date unless the discrepancy could not be reasonably ascertained from a review of the invoice. 4. Compliance with Law. Customer will comply with, and will not use the services in violation of, any federal, state or local laws and regulations, judicial or administrative decisions, executive orders, rules or interpretations ("Legal Requirements") applicable to its business and will be solely liable for any violation of applicable legal requirements. Customer is responsible for (i) monitoring and interpreting customer's legal requirements; and (ii) determining the particular actions, disclosures, formulas, calculations, or procedures required for compliance with customer's legal requirements. TSD Logistics Inc. will not be responsible for any violation by customer of customer's legal requirements. Customer will use the services in accordance and compliance with this agreement and the written policies and procedures provided by TSD Logistics Inc. from time-to* time. Customer will not use the services in connection with any gaming business, adult or sexually oriented business, or multi-level marketing business. TSD Logistics Inc. will comply with, and with not provide the Services in violation of, any legal requirements applicable to it as a provider of the Services. TSD Logistics Inc. will have no obligation to take any action that would cause TSD Logistics Inc., in its reasonable opinion, to be in violation of TSD Logistics Inc.' legal requirements. To the extent permitted by law, TSD Logistics Inc. and Customer will cooperate with each other in providing information or records in connection with examinations, requests, or proceedings of regulatory or law enforcement authorities. 5. Representations and Warranties. Customer and TSD Logistics Inc. each represent and warrant: (i) they have authority to execute this Agreement; (ii) executing this Agreement does not constitute a material conflict with, breach or default under any applicable law, their respective charter or bylaws, or any documents, agreements or other instruments which are binding upon the parties; and (iii) this Agreement creates valid, legal and binding obligations that are enforceable against the parties. 6. Disclaimer of Warranties. Except as specifically set forth in this agreement, TSD Logistics Inc. disclaims all warranties, express or implied, including without limitation, warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose, which relate to the services provided under this agreement. Further, TSD Logistics Inc. does not warrant that customer's use of the services will be uninterrupted or error-free. This agreement is a service agreement, any equipment provided to customer under this agreement is incidental to the services provided, and the provisions of the Uniform Commercial Code do not apply to this Agreement. 7. Limitation of Liability. 7.1 TSD Logistics Inc. will not be liable under any theory for special, indirect, incidental, consequential (including lost profits), exemplary or punitive damages; regardless of whether such damages were foreseeable or TSD Logistics Inc. was advised of the possibility of such damages. 7.2 Neither party may bring an action (regardless of form) for breach of this Agreement more than two (2) years after such party first knew or should have known of such breach; provided, however, this limitation will not apply to breaches of the confidentiality requirements herein. Each party will act to mitigate its damages. a. Indemnification. 8.1 Customer Indemnity. Customer will indemnify, defend and hold harmless TSD Logistics Inc., its directors, officers, employees, affiliates and agents against any third party claims, losses, costs, fines, penalties or damages (including court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees) (collectively, "Claims") arising out of or connected with Customer's (and Customer's users, affiliates, employees, agents or representatives) (i) gross negligence or willful misconduct; (ii) breach of this Agreement; (iii) use or misuse of any Service or product thereof or the EFS Website (or corresponding materials or documentation); and (iv) actual infringement of any patent, copyright, trademark, service mark, trade secret or other proprietary right of a third party; Customer will not indemnify TSD Logistics Inc. for claims arising from TSD Logistics Inc.'s acts or omissions for which Customer is entitled to indemnification. SCHEDULE A Services Description and Additional Terms and Conditions 1. Services. The transaction card ("Card(s)") services {collectively the "Services") to be provided by TSD Logistics Inc. to customer hereunder are described on the first page of this Agreement and more particularly in this Schedule A. 1.1 Cards. TSD Logistics Inc. will make Cards available to Customer. Cards may be used by customer and its authorized users at EFS authorized Locations ("Service Centers") to purchase fuel, products, services and/or for advances (as defined in Section 3.2). Discounts, if any, that may apply to card fuel purchases, will vary by Service Center and may be terminated by Service Centers at any time. "Authorized User(s)" refers to Customer's employees and owner/operators operating under Customer's 'Motor Carrier Authority' who are designated and authorized by Customer to use Cards under the terms of this Agreement. 1.2 Customer Purchase Policy. The Services provided by TSD Logistics Inc. will include the selections indicated on the Customer Purchase Policy, attached as Schedule C hereto. Individual deviations from the Customer Purchase Policy made on a case-by-case basis {e.g., one-time overrides) will not constitute a breach of this Agreement. Customer may adjust its Services selection by submitting an updated Customer Purchase Policy to TSD Logistics Inc. 1.3 Customer acknowledges and agrees that this Agreement provides for financial accommodation services within the meaning of 11 USC §365. Furthermore, all issued hereunder and all extensions of credit in connection with the foregoing shall be deemed made, executed, delivered and consummated in the State of Texas. 2. Customer Representations and Warranties; Customer Responsibilities. 2.1 Customer hereby represents and warrants: (a) the Cards issued to Customer will be used by Customer and Authorized Users. 2.2 Customer is responsible for any and all use and unauthorized use of the Cards. Customer acknowledges that it is the Customer's sole responsibility to ensure and communicate the following to its designated Authorized Users: {i) Cards are used only as expressly authorized under this Agreement and TSD Logistics Inc. policies; (ii) Cards must be safeguarded from loss or theft; and {iii) TSD Logistics Inc. must be notified immediately of any unauthorized use, loss or theft of Cards. Customer will not be liable for unauthorized charges that occur after Customer provides TSD Logistics Inc. with written notification of specific loss, theft or unauthorized use of a Card. Customer acknowledges and agrees that (i) it is responsible for establishing security policies and safeguards to prevent against misuse of the Services by authorized users and is solely liable for any such misuse; (ii) it is solely liable for repayment of all Advances in connection with cards, regardless of whether such advances arise out of the loss, theft or destruction of, or the authorized or unauthorized use or misuse of, any card; (iii) any dispute regarding transactions will be determined between Customer and the respective merchant pursuant to TSD Logistics Inc. Policies; {iv) failure by Customer to promptly review and reconcile Card and Check transaction reports provided by TSD Logistics Inc. may result in substantial undetected financial loss to Customer and an inability or waiver of the right to dispute such transactions pursuant to TSD Logistics Inc. policies; and (v) neither TSD Logistics Inc. nor any of its affiliates is the producer, manufacturer, designer, distributor or seller of any fuel or other goods or services purchased with a Card, a Check or otherwise in connection with this Agreement. 2.3 If Customer fails to comply with this Section 2, Customer will be required to reimburse TSD Logistics Inc. for all amounts or expenses TSD Logistics Inc. incurs as a result. All Cards issued to Customer shall remain the property of TSD Logistics Inc. and must be returned to TSD Logistics Inc. upon request. TSD Logistics Inc. may cancel, revoke, repossess or restrict the use of cards and withhold validation at any time, it is sole discretion. Use of the Cards and participation in the TSD Logistics Inc. fuel program is subject to customer's compliance with this Agreement, and policies and procedures as may be provided by TSD Logistics Inc. TSD Logistics Inc. reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to amend the TSD Logistics Inc. policies from time to time. " TSD Logistics Inc. fuel program" refers to the Cards, and the corresponding credit line and directories, made available by TSD Logistics Inc. for use at service centers and other various locations pursuant to terms of this Agreement. 3. Credit Limit, Security Amount; Advances. 3.1 Credit limit. Upon execution of this Agreement, TSD Logistics Inc. shall determine, in its sole discretion, whether to establish a monetary limit ("Credit Limit") on customer's card transactions and in what amount. The Credit Limit will be based on credit checks and reviews of financial statements, taking into account customer's payment method, the type and amount of the security amount and customer's current financial condition or such other information as TSD Logistics Inc. may deem appropriate. Customer acknowledges and agrees that TSD Logistics Inc. does not guarantee that it will establish or maintain an available credit limit for customer and customer hereby waives any and all claims against TSD Logistics Inc. and its affiliates based on such determinations by TSD Logistics Inc. Upon the determination by TSD Logistics Inc. to establish initially or to change customer's credit limit, TSD Logistics Inc. shalt give prompt notice to Customer of such determinations; provided, however, TSD Logistics Inc. shall have no liability for the failure to give any such notice. 3.2 Customer agrees {i) not to request or permit card transactions in excess of the Credit Limit; and {ii) to repay all advances, without deductions or offsets. 4. Return of Material. Upon termination of this agreement, customer shall immediately return to TSD Logistics Inc. or destroy (and upon request of TSD Logistics Inc., certify destruction of) all Cards, cards which permit Customer to control activity on the Cards ("Control Cards"), Check Authorization Record{s), equipment, and other documents and materials provided by TSD Logistics Inc. to Customer. 5. TSD Logistics Inc. rights upon Termination. Upon termination of this Agreement or TSD Logistics Inc.'s determination that Customer has breached a representation, warranty, term, condition or obligation under this Agreement, TSD Logistics Inc. may immediately: (i) cease Card and Check transaction authorizations and Advances in respect thereof; and/or (ii) hold (and apply to Customer's repayment obligations) the fuel discounts processed by TSD Logistics Inc. on behalf of Customer; and/or {iii) apply the Security Amount to Customer's repayment obligations. AUTHORIZATION Customer hereby represents and warrants that the signatory below ("Authorized Representative") is duly authorized to execute this agreement on behalf of customer. Customer hereby authorizes, without reservation, (i) TSD Logistics Inc. to process or otherwise manage credit transaction information in any manner deemed appropriate by TSD Logistics Inc., but at all times, consistent with applicable law; and (ii) any party or agency contacted by TSD Logistics Inc. or its agent to furnish the above mentioned information at any time. Customer hereby agrees to be bound by all terms and conditions contained in the agreement and any corresponding attachments, Schedules or exhibits, as amended from time to time.
  • Consent*I agree to the terms and conditions.

 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 03:55 PM
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I applied a few nights ago. I’m just waiting for the next step.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 06:12 PM
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I applied online...... received the phone call 4 or 5 days later...... Have the EFS card. Wait to use in now.
 
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Were you required to supply your SS # on the phone call, Roy ?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 08:52 AM
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*** warning start***

If you are not comfortable with providing your SSN, then you don't have to and you can continue your life as if I never brought this up. Just because I am comfortable with providing mine, doesn't mean someone else is.

The purpose of this thread was to get some opinions on the use of the program and share the information with others on the FTE community in case they too were interested. This is kind of like "if something offends you or makes you upset, don't do it and let the other people that it works for be happy".

A SSN is no longer an end all, be all to staying away from identify theft. There are many more layers now, but no one is safe from identity theft. Just the other day I needed to provide my SSN to the power company in order to settle my mother's account after she passed away on October 4th. I have had my credit card number stolen twice in 20 years and both of those times the card was cancelled, a new one was overnight shipped to me and the charges were reversed with no questions asked. The same policy or actions apply to my savings and checking accounts at my banking institution. I would suggest that if your bank does not offer the same level of insurance (not protection) from identity theft, you find another bank.

The only way to truly protect yourself from identity theft is to only use cash, have no utilities, no mortgage, no loans, don't buy anything online, no cell phone/smartphone, don't use fuel pump credit card swipes, don't have credit cards, etc... Identity theft is an aspect of life that we are all going to have to deal with for a very long time. Do what you can to protect yourself from it, but don't think you are safe just because you keep that little blue card that says Social Security on it in a safe in your house.

Once again I will vigorously attempt to steer this back on topic, which is the fuel program itself and not the application process...

*** warning end***

I emailed TDS again later that same night at 5:24 PM with another question:
Originally Posted by Sous
One more quick question.


On the application under the banking information there is a line that states "Do not enter we will contact you when we process the application by phone".


So, when filling out the online form, do I or do I not input my bank name and routing number?


Perhaps the last line which is "Bank account-we will contact by phone" is the only space that is left blank as that is the space for the account number associated with my banking institution?


Thanks


This was their reply first thing the next morning at 8:39 AM.

Originally Posted by TDS Logistics Rep
Put your routing number in so that we can use that for your verification when we call so you know if it us. But leave the account number blank. We will call you for the account number and social security number. We are tyring to get our portal secure so you can enter online, but it isn't yet so I don't feel safe asking for it over the internet.
I look forward to using the card in the near future. We have a Love's fuel station about 15 - 20 miles from our house and that will now become my primary filing station for the 75 gallons of fuel capacity I have on the truck. Suits me better this way anyway because I won't have to go to my large, bustling town of 5000 people in order to fill up. I can stay out in the sticks where I belong...
 
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Originally Posted by BPofMD
Were you required to supply your SS # on the phone call, Roy ?
I believe it was on the phone call and my checking account number.
They called, I didn't answer. They left a message. I called back and talked with them a bit.
 
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I believe it was on the phone call and my checking account number.
They called, I didn't answer. They left a message. I called back and talked with them a bit.
Seems like the person you spoke on the phone with inspired a bit of confidence, am I right or wrong?

Were there any takeaways that you care to share with us?
 
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Originally Posted by Sous
Seems like the person you spoke on the phone with inspired a bit of confidence, am I right or wrong?

Were there any takeaways that you care to share with us?
The Voice mail left and the conversation lead me to believe that this is totally legit. Friendly person that was informative and easy to talk with.

Will be nice to see some fuel savings........ Up to now I have only have Pilot fuel savings through Good Sam's Club...... 8 cents per gallon. They also draw the money directly from my checking account once a month.
 
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Originally Posted by Sailor_Roy
The Voice mail left and the conversation lead me to believe that this is totally legit. Friendly person that was informative and easy to talk with.

Will be nice to see some fuel savings........ Up to now I have only have Pilot fuel savings through Good Sam's Club...... 8 cents per gallon. They also draw the money directly from my checking account once a month.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and initial experience with TDS Logistics.

Your experience and opinion is highly valued by many here on FTE.
 
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