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Old 03-13-2019, 08:13 PM
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do '19s suffer the same issues?
 
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog View Post
Quick search, Ford has discontinued all pistons, rings and block. These are all now replaced with new updated numbers. The old block JL3Z-6010-B has been replaced. All other parts are the same. So it's a combination of those parts. Cylinder heads remain the same also.
Wow, thatís a manor change after such a short run. My guess would have been that redesigned piston rings would have solved the issue.

Itís kind of sad that these plasma lined cylinder engine blocks are essentially not rebuildable.
 
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:29 AM
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So, if mine gets replaced, it wont likely have the plasma-lined cylinders? So is it susceptible to more wear sooner? Now not a 250k engine? I wonder if oil recommendations will change. And how about break-in. I wonder what this will cost Ford per truck. Wish I could just ask for a 3.5L instead.
 
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:37 AM
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So, if mine gets replaced, it wont likely have the plasma-lined cylinders? So is it susceptible to more wear sooner? Now not a 250k engine? I wonder if oil recommendations will change. And how about break-in. I wonder what this will cost Ford per truck. Wish I could just ask for a 3.5L instead.
Still going to have the plasma liners as the new blocks can't accept cast iron sleeves. My guess is Ford changed a process or a finish and created a new part number.
 
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:18 AM
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I have a question. Do the 2nd gen. 3.5 eb have plasma treated cylinders ? Seems pressed in sleeves or CGI block is the way to go. And what about pre 18 model yr eb just for info, anyone know ?
 
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog View Post
Quick search, Ford has discontinued all pistons, rings and block. These are all now replaced with new updated numbers. The old block JL3Z-6010-B has been replaced. All other parts are the same. So it's a combination of those parts. Cylinder heads remain the same also.
CAn you find out the production date vin# range? I'm not really having the oil usage issue though. It used it at first but seems to have tapered off. I just have a valve hash/injector noise at around 2000-2500 rpms. But it is not consistent and not repeatable. My build date was 3/18
 
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No production range is given. Ford doesn't even give a date for the discontinued block.
 
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Originally Posted by stinson 108-1 View Post
I have a question. Do the 2nd gen. 3.5 eb have plasma treated cylinders ? Seems pressed in sleeves or CGI block is the way to go. And what about pre 18 model yr eb just for info, anyone know ?
All of the 3.5 EBs, first and second gen, have cast iron cylinder liners.
 
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All of the 3.5 EBs, first and second gen, have cast iron cylinder liners.
thought so. Have a 13 and thinking of a 19. Nice to know, thanks
 
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I agree with the idea of pushing an engine to properly break-in the rings. I've broken in lots of engines that were known around the Internet for oil consumption issues, including a 2011 5.0 L in my Mustang. I have never had an oil burner. It is my guess that people who baby their trucks when new are the ones that are more likely to suffer oil consumption issues.

The rule I've always had, with new or broken-in engines, is to be easy on the throttle until it comes up to temperature. Then all bets are off. I like to have fun while driving. I currently have a 2017 Pacifica and an old Prius; neither of which are driven "normally". I get some interesting looks from people.
100% correct. Babying a new engine is the worst thing you can do for it. Warm it up thoroughly, then let it rip.


 
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Everyone always bashes the Eco Boost engines and say the 5.0 is more reliable but it seems like the 5.0 has been plagued with issues from the get go. I would never buy a truck with one.
LOL, you keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better about owning an Ecoboom with all of it's issues (like high levels of fuel in oil, which shortens engine life and can't be fixed).

The 2011-2017 5L was a solid engine with only isolated issues, which is a lot better than having inherent design issues (like 10% of your oil being gas) that can't be fixed. The 2018 5L design was a big step backwards, and the plasma coating was done because it's cheaper than sleeving the block, not because it's better. Once again, the bean counters fudged things up.















 
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Old 04-04-2019, 06:48 PM
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Well, it appears Im the first on this board that I am aware of to be slated for a 5.0L replacement under the TSB. Dealer confirmed Ford agreed with the oil consumption test results, and authorized the complete engine be replaced. Now, itís on backorder. Iím not excited, anticipating a whole variety of gremlins to pop up afterward, but time will tell. I guess after 27,000 miles and countless quarts out the tailpipe, I should be elated, but really, Iím worn out.
 
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Smokewagun, Sorry to hear that, or maybe good that you will finally get resolution.
 
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:24 PM
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Smokewagun,You of all people deserve a New Long block make sure you know what the Change is from the Engineers this is going to be a big process but on the bright side no more checking the oil and you can hand this down to your Son.
 

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