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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 05:42 AM
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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jsoko
I did my 1st oil change
then i saw that big plastic plug YIKES
figured out how to empty without making a mess or getting burned

now I use my FORD Pass Points and get the Dealer to do it for free

I may do 6,000 miles a year
so every 3,000 suits me

I remember back in the OLD Days it was recommended every 5,000 or 90 days
You can't change oil without a mess. Look at the Ronin Factory EZ Drain plug. Expensive but well designed. It even magnetic tip to catch debris and a barbed end fitting to which you can attach a hose.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2020 | 04:59 AM
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Pretty sure we will learn the cause is in the plasma coating and ring selection. Two components with a high hardness and low friction make for a terrible seal under normal conditions. The technology works in race cars because of high temperatures and higher cylinder pressure.
Honda V6 accord suffers same issue. Strange thing is, it only periodically re-surfaces every couple of years. A vendor supplier problem don't know. You get a new engine but the root mfg problem is never addressed.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2020 | 09:08 AM
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I'm curious to see some updates from those who have had the TSB applied. Has the software flash corrected the issue?

The theory makes sense to me. If true, it's kind of wild how many good engines they replace before figuring this out.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2020 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I'm curious to see some updates from those who have had the TSB applied. Has the software flash corrected the issue?

The theory makes sense to me. If true, it's kind of wild how many good engines they replace before figuring this out.
I’d have to look through the myriad of threads and posts on this topic, but I recall a few having the PCM update without success.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2020 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
I'm curious to see some updates from those who have had the TSB applied. Has the software flash corrected the issue?

The theory makes sense to me. If true, it's kind of wild how many good engines they replace before figuring this out.
I've been following this issue on multiple forums. From what I've gathered - most experience far less oil consumption to rates that are considered acceptable.

I'm scheduled to have tsb completed Saturday. Will be reporting back however want to put some miles on it after the update. Currently putting under 1k miles a month on it - will take some time to have intl.
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Old Feb 20, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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We just had the TSB completed on our 5.0L a couple of weeks ago. So far, haven't noticed any differences in how the engine runs. Haven't put enough miles on it yet either to see if it has stemmed the consumption that we were seeing. Our consumption really varied which makes sense now that they are talking about the high vacuum pulling it past the rings. I saw as much as 2 qts in 3600 miles to a qt <3000 miles.

Will update as we drive it and see what is happening.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2020 | 05:08 PM
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Checked the oil in mine today with 4500 miles since last oil change, it measured 1 qrt low and I'm ok with that, another 1500 miles and I'll take it in for it's 6k mile oil change at 30k miles on the clock.
While there I'll ask about the TSB and have them check on any possible recalls, had the door latch freeze one time, not sure if it's been addressed before or not.
I have an extended warranty but want to make sure any recalls or TSB's are taken care of before the primary 32k mile warranty expires
 
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Old Feb 21, 2020 | 05:15 AM
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Has anyone tried using 5w-30 instead of 5w-20?

My 2004 Expy with the 4.6L calls for 5w-20 and in the summer heat of SE Virginia she would commonly use a quart in the summer even since she was new. I changed over to 5w-30 when she had about 30K miles on her and pretty much stopped that problem. Clearly this is a manufacturing issue and not an oil issue but, everything that I've ever owned has a used a little if worked hard.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 02:26 AM
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Thumbs up 2019 F150 XLT 5.0L Oil Consumption Update as of April 2, 2020

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My 2019 F150 was built May 13, 2019 Special Order. I had been reading about some 2018 5.0L owners were having oil consumption issues and had wondered if the 5.0L was a good choice. Many of you have probably heard by now that Ford determined that vacuum pressure was too high causing oil to be sucked by the rings. As a result they released a TSB that is supposed to fix the problem. My engine used about 3 liters of oil over 5,800 miles. It appears the oil consumption has stopped before I took it to my dealer last week for some warranty work. My dealer updated the PCM software, changed oil and filter, replaced the dipstick and tube with an updated version as per Ford's TSB. I am pleased to say that it has never run better! It has more power, runs smoother and the 10 speed shifts better than ever. Coming up to 6,100 miles now and also notice fuel mileage has improved as well, not that it was bad before but I'll take better fuel mileage anytime! Driving mostly country roads and some city speeds vary 30 - 70 mph but mostly 45 mph. At around 2,200 miles I tried driving in sport mode and noticed oil consumption increase along with fuel. Around 4,000 miles I kept it in "Normal" mode and noticed oil consumption has pretty much stopped. I think the vacuum pressure is where it should have been for this engine. Ford engineers seemed to have it figured out but, we'll wait and see after we get some more mileage on this 5.0L and keep you posted. I've driven and owned many Fords over the years and must say that I really like this truck!
Some good news on my 5.0L oil consumption after Ford's TSB above. I just checked my oil level today after putting on 1,350 miles and there is no noticeable oil consumption. Will keep you posted again in another month or 1,000 - 1,500 miles.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 05:44 AM
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So can you just go down to the dealer for an update or would I have to waste time with the oil consumption test?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 05:55 AM
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So can you just go down to the dealer for an update or would I have to waste time with the oil consumption test?
There is no consumption test for the new TSB, however some dealers will not perform the PCM update until they have the new dipstick in stock.

I would call your dealer and talk to the service manager, give them the TSB number then print it and bring it with you TSB 19-2365.pdf

My dealer gave me a bit of a hard time but I was able to get it completed in 1 trip.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 07:35 AM
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I had the new TSB done and while its only been 1500 miles or so, there is no noticeable consumption in mine.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2020 | 11:53 AM
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Having mine done today, it was also due for oil service so free oil change.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2020 | 02:28 PM
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5.0L TSB and Oil Consumption test

Originally Posted by IndyDog
So can you just go down to the dealer for an update or would I have to waste time with the oil consumption test?
Go speak to your dealer to make sure he has the new oil dipstick and tube assembly in stock. But they should do all of that when you set up an appointment with them.
Quote and print off the TSB. You won't be wasting your time with the oil consumption test. Oil consumption test starts after the dealer does this work and changes the oil and filter. If you have been consuming oil, you should have talked to your dealer about it, they would have started an open work order. If you have proof of any oil you purchased to top up, that would help. If not just let the dealer know and be sure to have them write into the work/service order.
The oil consumption test consists of monitoring the oil level over a period of time and miles and, when checking your oil level, be sure it is on a level surface, and if engine oils is hot,
let it sit for a good 15-20 mins on a known level surface. If in doubt, you can use your "Off Road" pitch level feature in your dash software display.
I checked my oil last week while parked on my street and it was fine. Checked it again yesterday in my garage where the concrete floor is true and level and
I got a more accurate reading that confirmed "no noticeable oil consumption" after this TSB was done.(Oil & filter changed, tube and dipstick and PCM update)
If you don't get anywhere with your dealer, complain to Ford and look for another dealership that will help you. Dealers are rated at Ford and when they get complaints,
Ford has a chat with them. If they don't meet the criteria, they can lose their dealership status. May be in an extreme case but, if enough complaints come in,
that may be the boot in the *** the dealer needs to tune them up.
 
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