The high beam LED's should be below the low beam LED's.

 

thank you

 

For those asking and commenting on the RA from Xenon, I have not received an RA yet for the Xtreme LED headlights. There were willing to do an RA for some of their 3157 brake/turn signal lamps that were less bright than the stock lamps, however, when I told them of the measuring & testing I did on the 4 different headlights & requested an RA on their headlights, they bawked!

Their response wasn't appropriate, and I've responded hoping they will change their position. Sharing their response now would be premature. I will hold off sharing until this is resolved or they say absolutely not. At that point I will review how well their customer service is. Hopefully they will recognize their error and shortcoming. Otherwise it will become even more clear why people buy from Amazon and other return-receptive sellers.

 

Pretty ironic that we experienced similar QC problems but on the opposite brands. The pin thing wasn't that big of a deal for me, but the full failure of the one harness & driver to turn on the headlight was a complete no-go.

 

Got my autofeel LED bulbs installed today. Not too bad. Had to rotate both 180 degrees. Driver side I had to drill a hole to get it in the correct position. Didn't take long to do. Longest part for me was looking for the set screw I dropped on the ground. Took 30 minutes to find that little bastage!

 

I got to test my high beam performance on my way home this morning. It is MUCH better since rotating the elements 180*. It isn't as bright as I would prefer, but they reach our far enough and give sufficient definition that I won't grumble too loudly. It is still far better than stock, and the price was very reasonable.

 

I got to test my autofeel bulbs tonight. MUCH better than the stock bulbs. Nice bright, white light. Very satisfied with them. I just need to aim my drivers side light a bit and then good to go. Now I'm looking to replace the fogs. Any recommendations for the 9145 bulbs? I replaced mine with 9045 which are brighter but the color doesn't match the autofeel bulbs

 

I am waiting for Morimoto to release an H13 led headlight kit. They have many other kits for other bulb numbers but nothing for H13. I'm assuming they are trying to perfect the optics, etc for the bi-Xenon setup, at least that's how I look at it. I've had multiple Morimoto lighting products in multiple applications and they are top notch. I might email them today and see if they have plans of releasing an H13 kit. Has anyone else had their products and enjoyed them? If the Ranch Hand didn't have the mesh guarding in front of the lights, id run the Morimoto full replacement led projector fogs in a heartbeat. I just don't know how the mesh would visually effect the light pattern on the road.

 

Well, Xenon Depot won't take the headlights back because of the additional holes I put in the collars. Technically they are correct, and if you agree with them, then so be it. However, in my experience with many hundreds of vendors at work, when you put forth the time, effort, and expense to help either make their product work or identify why it won't, they recognize the expense you've incurred. The vast majority of vendors are extremely happy when customers don't just punch out and say their product doesn't work. I try to treat vendors just as I would want to be treated. In this case, I even asked them what replacement collars would cost. They didn't even give me an answer.

Their response was that "Generally we cannot accept items for return once they have been installed", which means you have to figure out that the items they sell don't work properly without actually installing them. However, if installed items are in "new or re-saleable condition" they will consider taking them back and issue in store credit (that's not acceptable either). They said since these were modified, the warranty and return auth was voided. Didn't matter that the "modifications" were only to the collar and would be easily resolved with replacement collars, but more importantly, the driver's side headlight can't be aligned properly without the modification.

The most disturbing issue to me is I told them my measurements & tests showed their product wasn't designed to H13 specifications, but they kept saying only that they were sorry that I wasn't "happy" with the headlights. They never showed any interest in my test results that proved their headlights were dimensionally designed wrong for proper high beam performance.

So, see the below "table" of the measurements taken with a digital micrometer. I would have given you a cleaner table, but I couldn't find a way of inserting a table on here with retained formatting. I measured the distance between the 2 filaments or LEDs center-to-center, outside edge-to-outside edge of the 2 filaments or LEDs, collar mounting surface to the center of the 1st LED (high beam), and collar mounting surface to the center of the 2nd LED (low beam). Easy to interpret how each LED headlight compares to the OE filament measurements, and obviously the most drastic difference is the distance to the Xenon's high beam LED from the collar mounting surface. It's no wonder the high beam doesn't work properly. At the same time, it's easy to see why both the Autofeel and Nighteye perform very similarly and well for both the low beam and high beam.


--------------------------OE------Xenon-----Autofeel----Nighteye
LEDs center-center------0.086”----0.312”-----0.109”------0.113”
LEDs outside-outside----0.273”-----0.594”-----0.351”------0.304”
Mount-1st LED center---1.462”-----1.297”-----1.448”------1.461”
Mount-2nd LED center---1.559”----1.609”-----1.566”------1.580”

Another thing I'll point out to those considering a purchase from Xenon Depot is their higher prices. I went with them initially because I read a few good reviews, but I should have done my homework more thoroughly. Aside from the headlights, take a look at the cost of the Philips 3157 LED brake lights and the Putco brake & turn signal LED lights. There are many other vendors with better (sometimes much better) prices for the same lights. Oh yeah, Xenon also told me they'd charge a 20% restocking fee for anything I return, and it didn't seem to matter if a product was defective (headlights) or provided less light than the OE lamps (Philips 3157 LED brake lights).

I guess I just had to learn once again how much can be said for Amazon and other vendors I've used that are return friendly and appreciate customers who go the extra mile to try and help. For example, my return of the Nighteye headlights was fast and painless with Amazon.

Sorry for the long post. I was hoping to avoid this, but since they refused multiple times despite my explanations, I wanted to post the facts up here so other buyers would be aware of what they face should they place an order with Xenon Depot.

 

Thanks for the feedback Kodiak. I never took any measurements, but did hold them side-by-side with the stock halogens and the differences were obvious.
I now feel lucky that I did receive a refund from Xenon Depot (minus the $25 for shipping/restock). I will say I cheated a bit. I put the new collars from the Nighteye bulbs I ordered on my XD bulbs and swapped the seals so they still had the blue color ones on them. I didn't want to take a chance that the extra holes would void my refund.

 

sorry about your RA situation Kodiak... I'd call my CC company and dispute it. At least it makes them write a response and who knows, you might win.

 

I was going to do the exact same thing, but the Autofeel collar has much smaller tabs on the back & the bigger tabs on the Xenon hit the metal cooling fins on the Autofeel. As you can tell, I checked.

 

Nothing a little trim job on the tabs doesn't take care of.

 

That's true, but I was sensitive to the fact that the Autofeel collar tabs that I would have sent them would be quite a bit smaller than the collar they sell. Maybe I shouldn't have cared, but it helps me sleep better at night.

In the end, I'm out the $150 or so for the headlights and shipping cost.

 

I took the plunge and went with a vled lmz h13 headlight kit (5k). I wanted to put led headlight bulbs in my wife's car since I already did led fogs for her and her car just so happens to use h13 bulbs. I'm going to swap the Xenon Depots into hers and run the vleds in mine to compare beams. I'll try and get some good pictures of the current xenons and get the same pictures/angles once the vleds are in. Her fogs have a slightly blue tint to them anyways so the depot kit will match well on her car. My vled kit is backordered since I went with the 5k kit, which I'm fine with. I think the pure white will look better in conjunction with my amber fogs than the slight blue tint does now.