Operator Commanded Regeneration
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While it would be really nice to be able to do a commanded regen while moving, I feel like it is really unnecessary. REGEN really has behaved itself from the day it came out. We are all a little more "retentive" on this forum than the typical user, and as such, it just doesn't sit well when we know it's "full". I suspect that these exhaust systems have a finite number of Regens, and if some guy runs a regen every day, theyd be replacing the exhaust for early wearout, etc.
this is probably the reason why they don't enable the DPF% screen by default, as we really don't have to worry about it being an issue to begin with.
this is probably the reason why they don't enable the DPF% screen by default, as we really don't have to worry about it being an issue to begin with.
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IDS can only initiate Regen while stationary.
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The monitors and programmers are they same. They only perform stationary regen.
All of the stationary regen, no matter how or what initiated it, ceases/quits when the brake pedal is pressed.
All of the stationary regen, no matter how or what initiated it, ceases/quits when the brake pedal is pressed.
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Can I ask this silly question...
Just bought a '15 F-350 Lariat SRW CC
Today, noticed it said Exhaust Filter Cleaning while driving to lunch. When this initiates, and is interrupted by turning truck off, will it start back again when you start the truck again, until the entire process cycle is complete?
I'm trying to find a dealer that can get me the DPF % screen for free if possible so I know where I stand and when the next regen will be, but was not sure if this is a process that once it begins, it will keep restarting until it drops the % to where it should be...which, by the way, is what?
Thanks.
Just bought a '15 F-350 Lariat SRW CC
Today, noticed it said Exhaust Filter Cleaning while driving to lunch. When this initiates, and is interrupted by turning truck off, will it start back again when you start the truck again, until the entire process cycle is complete?
I'm trying to find a dealer that can get me the DPF % screen for free if possible so I know where I stand and when the next regen will be, but was not sure if this is a process that once it begins, it will keep restarting until it drops the % to where it should be...which, by the way, is what?
Thanks.
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It may or may not start back up immediately. It would depend on how long it was going before you shut it down. In your case you mention going to lunch, which probably wasn't very long, so I'd guess it will startup again pretty soon.
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If anything, it will restart when the filter gets to full again... I rarely, if ever, get a complete cycle in. Ohh and if you do interupt it too often - it will give you a "Drive to Clean" message, which I suggest you do. I have only seen this once and on a first build/job 1, 2011.
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Well, I guess I assume it started again and completed...
I never seen it pop back up when leaving after lunch, but then again, it shows and disappears on the screen faster than you can blink, so may have missed it?!? Why would they not keep that up there on the display until the driver acknowledges it? So you at least know it's happening.
I need to get this DPF % screen. Seems to be the only way to monitor and know when a regen has happened/is happening.
If it truly does pick back up and completes itself down to the cutoff %, would be nice to know it's happening.
If it doesn't start back up, and waits until full again, seems that is poor logic. May never get a full regen cycle in that case.
I never seen it pop back up when leaving after lunch, but then again, it shows and disappears on the screen faster than you can blink, so may have missed it?!? Why would they not keep that up there on the display until the driver acknowledges it? So you at least know it's happening.
I need to get this DPF % screen. Seems to be the only way to monitor and know when a regen has happened/is happening.
If it truly does pick back up and completes itself down to the cutoff %, would be nice to know it's happening.
If it doesn't start back up, and waits until full again, seems that is poor logic. May never get a full regen cycle in that case.
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This is really why Ford disabled the screen. The process works seamlessly in the background and there's nothing the driver really needs to know or do for it's correct operation. By having the screen enabled, it allows the driver to obsess about something that really should never be considered. I have to admit, when I enabled mine with Forscan, I spent way too much time looking at the DPF screen. I had to force myself to change the screen back to oil and trans temp and ween myself off of it.
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This is really why Ford disabled the screen. The process works seamlessly in the background and there's nothing the driver really needs to know or do for it's correct operation. By having the screen enabled, it allows the driver to obsess about something that really should never be considered. I have to admit, when I enabled mine with Forscan, I spent way too much time looking at the DPF screen. I had to force myself to change the screen back to oil and trans temp and ween myself off of it.
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that's your perspective but there are people who can benefit from it. In the summer for me, not much issue(taking jackhammering out of equation), but winter the truck sometimes serves as an escape from the cold. If I see that I'm at soot limit I will either drive around or hit stationary regen, whatever's most convenient for me. It's only happened a couple of times where it's been needed, but at least I'm in the know.
Actually, no, it's not my perspective. It's Ford's and and that's why it's disabled.
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Yes, and they've decided that giving that option causes more trouble than good so they disabled it. Remember, I enabled my screen so I understand the interest in doing so and having the option there. I was simply pointing out that in many cases and for many owners, it will cause owners to question what's "normal" far too often causing themselves stress and unnecessary trips to the dealer and unfounded warranty costs. This is the same reason that your temp gauges don't read anything real anymore. People get obsessed and bring their vehicles in for swings within the norm costing Ford time and money. So, it's better to keep the average consumer in the dark than give them info that they can get bent over.
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Does anyone know the answer to whether it picks up where it left off or does it wait until full again, in the event you stop it while it's in process or just started it's process?
Only way I would think to know this is if I had the DPF screen to look at.
It's not something I'd obsess about, but, would be nice to know it is doing a full regen process after interrupted, as I would think partials would not be as effective (as in stopping it after it started at lets say 90%, and then when it reaches full again, it starts again, only to be interrupted again at 90%).
Now I understand it takes 10 minutes for this to happen after truck comes to temp, and if someone is only driving a truck short distances constantly, then I guess there is no need for them to have the 6.7 really, but still would be nice to be able to monitor.
But I'm coming from a 6.0, so monitoring everything was a daily driving ritual.
Only way I would think to know this is if I had the DPF screen to look at.
It's not something I'd obsess about, but, would be nice to know it is doing a full regen process after interrupted, as I would think partials would not be as effective (as in stopping it after it started at lets say 90%, and then when it reaches full again, it starts again, only to be interrupted again at 90%).
Now I understand it takes 10 minutes for this to happen after truck comes to temp, and if someone is only driving a truck short distances constantly, then I guess there is no need for them to have the 6.7 really, but still would be nice to be able to monitor.
But I'm coming from a 6.0, so monitoring everything was a daily driving ritual.
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Does anyone know the answer to whether it picks up where it left off or does it wait until full again, in the event you stop it while it's in process or just started it's process?
Only way I would think to know this is if I had the DPF screen to look at.
It's not something I'd obsess about, but, would be nice to know it is doing a full regen process after interrupted, as I would think partials would not be as effective (as in stopping it after it started at lets say 90%, and then when it reaches full again, it starts again, only to be interrupted again at 90%).
Now I understand it takes 10 minutes for this to happen after truck comes to temp, and if someone is only driving a truck short distances constantly, then I guess there is no need for them to have the 6.7 really, but still would be nice to be able to monitor.
But I'm coming from a 6.0, so monitoring everything was a daily driving ritual.
Only way I would think to know this is if I had the DPF screen to look at.
It's not something I'd obsess about, but, would be nice to know it is doing a full regen process after interrupted, as I would think partials would not be as effective (as in stopping it after it started at lets say 90%, and then when it reaches full again, it starts again, only to be interrupted again at 90%).
Now I understand it takes 10 minutes for this to happen after truck comes to temp, and if someone is only driving a truck short distances constantly, then I guess there is no need for them to have the 6.7 really, but still would be nice to be able to monitor.
But I'm coming from a 6.0, so monitoring everything was a daily driving ritual.
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Yes, and they've decided that giving that option causes more trouble than good so they disabled it. Remember, I enabled my screen so I understand the interest in doing so and having the option there. I was simply pointing out that in many cases and for many owners, it will cause owners to question what's "normal" far too often causing themselves stress and unnecessary trips to the dealer and unfounded warranty costs. This is the same reason that your temp gauges don't read anything real anymore. People get obsessed and bring their vehicles in for swings within the norm costing Ford time and money. So, it's better to keep the average consumer in the dark than give them info that they can get bent over.