The one site which specializes in Ford LED for the F150 uses genuine OEM lamps and assemblies but they make up the wiring harness to accommodate the necessary changeover. They run about $1700-$1800. Do not know yet if it is worth the change over. Still cheaper than the Lariat Ultimate but a heck of a lot of money for an undetermined gain in illumination.

 

And that's only the headlights. The factory option includes the taillights and LED fog lamps.

 

Good point. I am getting to the point of being more interested in the LED tail lights. LED brake lights give a stop warning about 65 feet earlier (at 65 mph) than incandescent since they are instant on, rather than having to heat a filament.

 

I would love the LED options also and would gladly pay the extra $1200- $1300 for them. But, I do not want the ultimate package (dont want chrome package, moon roof, or 20" wheels). So, for now (until an aftermarket with led drl's) I am looking at replacing the bulbs with standard fitting LED replacements for around $350 for low, high, & fog.
http://www.xenonhids.com/hid-kits/2015-ford-f-150-66967.html

 

It may seem that way, but there may be some details that are lacking when you compare those two trucks in person. On the F-150's for example, A King Ranch can be optioned pretty much the way a Platinum is although the King Ranch isn't guaranteed to have BLIS. It's an option, but not a guarantee. A Lariat 501A and Lariat 502A can be close, but the biggest difference off the bat one might notice is the LED headlights on the 502A. The halogens on the 501A are **** and it's an expensive thing to change out.

You've got to really dive into the fine print to make sure that's all you lose with an XLT vs. a Lariat. In the F-150's, the differences are much bigger. 8" productivity screen, push button start, power folding mirrors, auto-locking tailgate and so on. It's easy to gloss over some of those things when shopping the options on an order sheet or online configurator.

 

Places like raptor retrofit will offer the oem led light assembly. The f150 lights are around $1600. That includes the factory oem headlight assemblies and the conversion plug and play harness to go along with it. Last i heard they should start getting the 17 SD lights around feburary. Its expensive but still a lot cheaper than ordering all the package stuff you dont want or need just to get the lights. I agree though that most other aftermarket lights look different and not as good as the oem.

 

These are good questions to ask.

I went through this same dilemma, as the XLT's of today are very close to the Lariat of a few years ago. So many wonderful options in the XLT, including SYNC 3 and the 8 inch center stack screen. In the end, I decided I wanted the Lariat so I could access the 20" rims, have dual climate control, and have the factory leather.

Yes, many dealers have connections with local companies that can put leather in an XLT. A good option for those who decide the XLT has enough goodies.

It will be interesting to come back to this thread after a few months of ownership. I might very well decide that XLT has enough goodies, and I overpaid for a few minor upgrades. We will see. There may also be some trade-in/resale bump to the Lariat line. The name has long been associated with intro level luxury of the Super Duty - as compared to the KR and Plat.

 

Great thread. Curious if anyone knows why you can't get 20" rims on an XLT, they're only available on the Lariat. I saw a '16 on a dealer lot with the 20" rims (Lariat) and it looked so much better than the 18" rims. I went online and "built" a '17 F250 XLT, but no option for the 20" rim.

 

Don't think it's a factory option. However, takeoffs should be plentiful online.

 

Yeah takeoffs are plentiful for the previous year models, so I imagine with time - there will be a lot of 20's out there.

Since my order is retail and not scheduled yet, I went ahead and made the change from Lariat to XLT. Hopefully made the right choice. Saved me about $4000 and I was able to add a few goodies.

 

How long is the expected wait time for ordering a truck?

Is there a historical point when cash back incentives are the highest? I believe the cash back for a 2017 is $1000, but for a 2016, it's $3000.

Not sure when I'm going to buy another new truck, but starting to plan and was curious if there is a season when you can order the new model, but get the highest cash back incentive?

 

There won't be any incentives on the 2017 Super Duty that aren't applicable to all models brand wide. Ford will want to liquidate the outgoing 2016 SD's first. That's why there are almost $16,000 worth of rebates on them right now.

The best times to buy a vehicle are always at the end of the month and right before the arrival of new models. Whether you are buying the previous year where the new ones are essentially carryovers or complete redesigns. It doesn't matter. Of course discounts are never as deep as they are when a body style changes and the manufacturer is trying to get rid of old stock. 6 months to a year from now holdover 2016's will be dirt cheap relatively speaking. Of course order banks close well in advance of the new model orders starting and shipping. If you are going ot order a vehicle the same rules apply. The only thing to be aware of is that if you order the vehicle the incentives offered that are time sensitive may be over when you actually go to do the paperwork after the truck is delivered. Sure dealers may try and tell you that they'll honor a rebate or incentive past the deadline but I'd get that in writing before I'd believe that. The reality is, its beyond their control. All those incentives that say: "Take delivery from dealer stock by xx/xx/xx date" say that for a reason.

 

No. Not even close.

 

Yeah I'm not seeing almost $16,000 worth of rebates on '16's. I looked at a truck and the only thing available was the $3,000 cash back.

 

You are partially correct. I didn't look at where the discounts were actually coming from but 10k+ off of MSRP at north Texas Ford dealerships is common place on the 2016 Super Duty right now. An example can be found here.

There are two Ford factory incentives right now. One is 3,000 cash back and the other is $500. I am not certain what the second one is for. As I said the other discounts are from the dealerships themselves. They are knocking about $10k off or more in my area. Two weeks ago they offered $15.5k off King Ranch. The week before when I bought my F-250 it was $14.5k off MSRP for all Super Duty trucks up to Lariat trim levels. That's what I got plus I qualified for another offer as well. They can apply discounts for all sorts of ****. There are always student discounts, military discounts etc. Usually these are $250 to $500 off.