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Old Aug 30, 2014 | 06:05 PM
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High boost at start

I'm having an issue where my boost reads 10.0-11.0 at start up then climbs up into the 20s as I drive. If I come to a stop or go below 5 mph the boost reading drops to 0. Normally the boost reading shows a range of 0 to 6 or 7 and up to 12-14 if I get into the throttle too much. Its not as simple as a bad reading, I can tell the truck is more responsive with the higher boost.

I've replaced the up-pipes, boots, ICP, IPR and have the EBPV unplugged. I can't recreate the condition so troubleshooting has been a pain. Any help or ideas would be great.

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Old Aug 30, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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Where is the boost reading coming from?
 
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What are you using to read the boost? Gauge? Scan tool? What kind? If it's a gauge, how is it tied into the engine?
 
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I'm going off the Edge programmer so I think it's getting input from the MAP sensor.

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What are you using to read the boost? Gauge? Scan tool? What kind? If it's a gauge, how is it tied into the engine?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Ah.... With everything you describe, it's more likely you have something going on with a connection, the MAP sensor, or a combination of problems that involve a boost leak. There is no method I can think of to actually build 10 PSI boost at idle.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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Impossible to build that much boost at idle. Its an electrical issue somewhere. If your Edge is reading it, then so is the PCM.

Which makes sense as to why the truck feels snappier. The tuning by default limits the fuel in low boost situations in order to reduce tailpipe emissions and black smoke. But if the PCM sees higher boost, those fueling restrictions are eliminated. So your truck feels quicker as a result.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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I'll double check all the connections, maybe something is loose. Other than the MAP sensor are there other sensors that influence boost pressure and could apply in my case?

Thanks for all the feedback
 
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Originally Posted by gnrunner70
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I've replaced the up-pipes, boots, ICP, IPR and have the EBPV unplugged. I can't recreate the condition so troubleshooting has been a pain. Any help or ideas would be great.

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Bummer. You would been better off by replacing the Edge programmer. That is where your problem reading is coming from

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I'm going off the Edge programmer so I think it's getting input from the MAP sensor.

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... If your Edge is reading it, then so is the PCM.
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Correct. My Bully Dog programmers and chips did the same thing. They modify the look up tables for things like MAP to get the PCM to offer up more fuel then necessary. Depending on the setting, I'd see boost readings on my AE ranging from -5 to 15 psi at idle. That is why I dislike many of those programmers.

Clever tuners will also modify the MAP table to work around the defueling issue at higher boost levels but they do it in such as way as to preserve the absolute value of the reading.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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I'll try removing the Edge for a few days, see if it reoccurs.
 
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