Updated Torque PIDs
Laughing Gas
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 868
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From: SoCal
Has anyone compared MFD between Torque and AE? I'm seeing 155mg/stroke in Torque and 10.1g in AE.
A little off topic, but while trouble shooting a rough idle, I was schooled by a Ford tech. AE showed no failures in CCT, but reported my missing IAH. According to the tech, the presence of the AIH code ends the CCT before any weak cylinders appear. His workaround was to watch MFD while canceling 1 injector at a time and noting a rise in MFD. Sure enough, he canceled #7 and no change in MFD. #7 was only showing 1.7% perdel.
A little off topic, but while trouble shooting a rough idle, I was schooled by a Ford tech. AE showed no failures in CCT, but reported my missing IAH. According to the tech, the presence of the AIH code ends the CCT before any weak cylinders appear. His workaround was to watch MFD while canceling 1 injector at a time and noting a rise in MFD. Sure enough, he canceled #7 and no change in MFD. #7 was only showing 1.7% perdel.
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Joined: Jan 2011
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From: Puget Sound
Has anyone compared MFD between Torque and AE? I'm seeing 155mg/stroke in Torque and 10.1g in AE.
A little off topic, but while trouble shooting a rough idle, I was schooled by a Ford tech. AE showed no failures in CCT, but reported my missing IAH. According to the tech, the presence of the AIH code ends the CCT before any weak cylinders appear. His workaround was to watch MFD while canceling 1 injector at a time and noting a rise in MFD. Sure enough, he canceled #7 and no change in MFD. #7 was only showing 1.7% perdel.
A little off topic, but while trouble shooting a rough idle, I was schooled by a Ford tech. AE showed no failures in CCT, but reported my missing IAH. According to the tech, the presence of the AIH code ends the CCT before any weak cylinders appear. His workaround was to watch MFD while canceling 1 injector at a time and noting a rise in MFD. Sure enough, he canceled #7 and no change in MFD. #7 was only showing 1.7% perdel.
That "off-topic" input is really quite on-topic. We use these devices to troubleshoot our trucks, and you're saying a simple Torque Pro can do a better job of troubleshooting a bad stick than you can with the fancy features of AE and the like.
I have a partial miss in one injector - that's tough to spot. I will say that I've seen rough idle with PerDels near 2, and it was a bad injector.
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Joined: Aug 2012
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From: thornton CO
So I finally got toque pro set up and have a few issues.
My boost reads -2 ish at idle. Is that normal? EOT reads in Celsius no matter what I try. And the accelerator petal position does not read anything. Also the list of PID's that can be edited is not as long as the list that can be displayed. I'm new to this and not real tech savvy so forgive my ignorance if that's the case.
My MFD seems to be right on though.
One more, how accurate do you guys think the HP reading is?
My boost reads -2 ish at idle. Is that normal? EOT reads in Celsius no matter what I try. And the accelerator petal position does not read anything. Also the list of PID's that can be edited is not as long as the list that can be displayed. I'm new to this and not real tech savvy so forgive my ignorance if that's the case.
My MFD seems to be right on though.
One more, how accurate do you guys think the HP reading is?
Laughing Gas
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 868
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From: SoCal
What is the equation for the MFD PID?
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From: thornton CO
The equation is the preloaded one. I did need to change it to mg.
PID 221412
Mass fuel desired
MFUEL
0.0
100.0
X1
MG/stroke
((A*256)+B)*0.0625
Auto
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,277
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From: Blairsville, Pennsylvania
Celsius and other settings...
Tap the gear on the main page, Settings, Units.
Go through those settings to get English units instead of Metric
Also under settings, scroll down to "Manage extra PIDs/Sensors"
Tap the 3 vertical dots in the upper right, "Add predefined set", choose "Ford(Incl Powerstroke)"
This adds more Ford PIDs.
Tip: Remember to use the back arrow to get to the main screen, hit the gear, and tap "Quit" when finished running TorquePro. Otherwise it doesn't close out properly.
Hope this helps!
Tap the gear on the main page, Settings, Units.
Go through those settings to get English units instead of Metric
Also under settings, scroll down to "Manage extra PIDs/Sensors"
Tap the 3 vertical dots in the upper right, "Add predefined set", choose "Ford(Incl Powerstroke)"
This adds more Ford PIDs.
Tip: Remember to use the back arrow to get to the main screen, hit the gear, and tap "Quit" when finished running TorquePro. Otherwise it doesn't close out properly.
Hope this helps!
Laughing Gas
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,020
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From: Washington State
yeah, what he said.....
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
From: thornton CO
Celsius and other settings...
Tap the gear on the main page, Settings, Units.
Go through those settings to get English units instead of Metric
Also under settings, scroll down to "Manage extra PIDs/Sensors"
Tap the 3 vertical dots in the upper right, "Add predefined set", choose "Ford(Incl Powerstroke)"
This adds more Ford PIDs.
Tip: Remember to use the back arrow to get to the main screen, hit the gear, and tap "Quit" when finished running TorquePro. Otherwise it doesn't close out properly.
Hope this helps!
Tap the gear on the main page, Settings, Units.
Go through those settings to get English units instead of Metric
Also under settings, scroll down to "Manage extra PIDs/Sensors"
Tap the 3 vertical dots in the upper right, "Add predefined set", choose "Ford(Incl Powerstroke)"
This adds more Ford PIDs.
Tip: Remember to use the back arrow to get to the main screen, hit the gear, and tap "Quit" when finished running TorquePro. Otherwise it doesn't close out properly.
Hope this helps!
Laughing Gas
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 868
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From: SoCal
I'm looking at my pids now. In units, I have Celsius unchecked and my EOT is:
Pid 221310
Unit C
Max/min 300/0
Equation (((A*256)+B)/100)-40
My Trans temp is:
Pid 221674
Unit F max/min 100.0/0.0
Equation ((A*256)+B)/8
Both read as Fahrenheit and I just noticed the min/max on my Trans doesn't make sense, but it reads accurately. Weird!
Pid 221310
Unit C
Max/min 300/0
Equation (((A*256)+B)/100)-40
My Trans temp is:
Pid 221674
Unit F max/min 100.0/0.0
Equation ((A*256)+B)/8
Both read as Fahrenheit and I just noticed the min/max on my Trans doesn't make sense, but it reads accurately. Weird!
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,277
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From: Blairsville, Pennsylvania
Does that help?
(My EOT is in *F, no problem)