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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 06:58 AM
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Looks really nice Gary. Heater hoses are 5/8" ID, the only thing I would worry about is whether they need to be longer and curved to keep the hoses clear of the right side accessories.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 07:35 PM
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Now we need the Beach Boys: "She's so great my 408!"

Looking fantastic, Gary!
It rhymes! But it is only part of an inch away from being a 409, although no one that knows engines would mistake it for the W engine.


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Looks really nice Gary. Heater hoses are 5/8" ID, the only thing I would worry about is whether they need to be longer and curved to keep the hoses clear of the right side accessories.
Thanks, Bill. But I don't think there's going to be anything extra to get around. No AIR pump and the 3G alternator is the same size.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2016 | 10:58 PM
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I like the #1 red plug wire.

Looking at that pic, will you have your afr incorporated into the pod gauges?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 07:09 AM
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Also, I'm going to ask Tim to have Cory do a dyno pull from as low of RPM as he thinks is safe as I'd like to see what it does down around 2000 R's.
These are the results I would really want to see... people get so hung up on the peak numbers that they forget about the rest of the curve. The part of the curve where you do most of your driving deserves more attention than it gets. I liked my old 400 because of the nice, strong low end which was great for water hauling and crawling around in the forest with a load of firewood. It would be neat to see your dyno curve overlay next to a stock 400.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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Not sure what the story is about the #1 wire - maybe so it is easy to find?

As for the AFR meter, I haven't decided on that yet. Not sure what to do there.

And since my goal was strong low-end torque, it would be nice to know that I achieved it. I've already sent Tim a note about that, so we'll see what he says.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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That's my plan for Darth's engine, plenty of good torque under 2000 rpm.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 09:29 PM
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Got a note back from Tim today. Said he's given Cory, his engine guy, the request for a lower-RPM dyno run as well as the info on heater hose sizing. So I should hear something back from him on that soon.

And, that reminded me about a conversation Cory and I had about fasteners. I'd asked for them to use some of their "dress up" bolts for the intake, so Cory used the 12-point stainless ones they have in stock for both the intake as well as the valve covers. However, you may remember that the upper two bolts on my valve covers are recessed - I recessed them. Turns out that they don't have any that will fit there, although I forgot to ask Cory if the problem is length or diameter. So, I asked Tim to send 6 extra of the 12-pointers with the engine as I "know someone with a welder and a lathe who can probably make them fit".

Also, I asked Tim for the data on the other dyno runs Cory did on the engine, like where he bolted on a 750 CFM Holley in place of the 750 CFM Street Demon. Cory told me that it made little difference as the Street Demon was spot-on right out of the box. But, I'd still like to see it.

Oh yes, David asked me how the oil pressure worked out with Tim's mod's. The short answer is "perfect". The longer answer is that it idles at 20 psi and has 55 psi at 2000 RPM - and that's when the oil is hot, right after 4 dyno pulls. That's quite different from that engine before rebuilding as well as Rusty's engine, which has recently been rebuilt. Both idled at 10 psi and have about 40 psi at 2000 RPM. Problem solved!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 12:13 AM
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Happy New Year, Gary! I love what you did with those valve covers! Don't be surprised if I 'borrow' the idea for my newest project Although I don't think it'll be too welcome on this forum - it's a car this time... lol. Any new updates?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by EffunFiddy
Although I don't think it'll be too welcome on this forum ...
I dunno about that, there are a handful of cars that people talk about out here; cripe, we've even got a guy or two who are big on AMC Javelins & Gremlins & such... and me with my Taurus SHOs.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 12:30 AM
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I dunno about that, there are a handful of cars that people talk about out here; cripe, we've even got a guy or two who are big on AMC Javelins & Gremlins & such... and me with my Taurus SHOs.
Those are all cool rides! Those SHO's would haul the mail right from factory I'm told. Never seen one in person before, pretty scarce I'd imagine. I went the foxbody route. Been watching them on TV and reading about them in magazines for years and always liked the look of a notchback fox. The aftermarket support for them is just crazy. So far I've gutted mine down to a bare shell, mini tubbed it and welded in a full cage.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 12:50 AM
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TSo far I've gutted mine down to a bare shell, mini tubbed it and welded in a full cage.
Kinda sounds like JWTimme who is a guy out in Oklahoma that Gary knows, he's got a drag car built out of a 71-73 Mustang.

Yeah, getting certain parts for SHO engines means having them custom-made (pistons, for example) or you're SOL and have to do something else.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 07:52 AM
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There are also those of us who like to play with turbo 4 cylinder engines. My 200 hp 2.2L Chrysler for example. My first introduction to a turbo setup was my dad's 1966 Corsa, followed by my 1963 Jetfire.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 07:52 AM
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No updates on the engine. Last I asked Tim he was still waiting on DUI to get the distributor built. He wants to curve it and then make a pull on the dyno to ensure everything is right before shipping it.

As for borrowing the valve cover idea, please do. They say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

Yes, we are all gearheads, and most cars have similar gears to trucks - they just can't haul as much mail. So, a mention here and there of non-truck things is appreciated. I even reported on making battery cables for my boat on here.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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.... They say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. ....
When my son was in high school track I realized that, at least in that venue, hatred is the sincerest form of flattery. Everyone hated the school that won every meet!
 
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 85lebaront2
There are also those of us who like to play with turbo 4 cylinder engines. My 200 hp 2.2L Chrysler for example. My first introduction to a turbo setup was my dad's 1966 Corsa, followed by my 1963 Jetfire.
I'm reading as much about turbos as I can, never had much of anything to do with them before. I'm hoping to have a turbo setup on a 460 in my foxbody. That's the plan so far anyway. It'll be awful tight in there but should be a real weapon once it's done.
 
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