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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Bullitt390 that will work, but it can be done without the toggle and only 2 relays and work fully automatic.

Follow the above post, read it carefully, you'll get it.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blown14psi
Bullitt390 that will work, but it can be done without the toggle and only 2 relays and work fully automatic.

Follow the above post, read it carefully, you'll get it.
I get it just fine, just wanted to post a toggle hi solution since there has been so many bogus ones.

Keep in mind the low and hi cannot be energized at the same time. The temp sending cannot have ANY overlap.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Yes both relays need to be energized on high speed. The temp control energizes low at 88C then energizes both at 95C. The audi engineers designed it just fine and it works in millions of their cars. lol.

Obviously you can only send power to one fan speed at a time.

What you are not understanding is the temp control has both relays energized on high speed, but it is switching off power to low on the motor. If you wire it as I described.

If it's easier for you to use the toggle then why not? I would rather have it automatic.

edit: you can use any temperature switch or switches to energize high and low speed fan, but I found the audi switch to be an excellent all-in-one solution.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by blown14psi
Yes both relays need to be energized on high speed. The temp control energizes low at 88C then energizes both at 95C. The audi engineers designed it just fine and it works in millions of their cars. lol.
BTW, the link you provided earlier doesn't work.

The Volvo controller seems to be the way to go with either the single VW sender or relays with dual Caddy senders.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
BTW, the link you provided earlier doesn't work.
Ah!!! Probably need to be a member to view it. Sorry! This is the only forum that I've been too that requires a fee to post pics.

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The Volvo controller seems to be the way to go with either the single VW sender or relays with dual Caddy senders.
Sure, but the Audi sender can be bought at a salvage yard for a couple bucks. I bought 2 relay's with harness from summit for 14 out the door. The only problem is it's a metric thread and I had to buy a tap for 15.

I believe the ebay sender that I linked is an aftermarket that runs at lower temps, when I went to the wreaking yard some of the cars had sensors with higher temps.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Ah!!! Probably need to be a member to view it. Sorry! This is the only forum that I've been too that requires a fee to post pics.
I think you need a minimum post count to post pics, like 25 or 100 or something.

And it's all HTML BBcodes, no biggie to insert pics.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
I think you need a minimum post count to post pics, like 25 or 100 or something.

And it's all HTML BBcodes, no biggie to insert pics.

Josh

Yes, you are probably correct. I'm a newb to this forum. I'm not a newb when it comes to cars and electrical wiring. Just built a TMI recommended 400 for my pops 78 f250 and put the taurus fan on it. I built my supercharged modular Stang. Been driving Fords for 20 years.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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That is the MK8 fan, the most powerful of any fan made.
Good info about the marine switches. Where would you plug them into the coolant?

Both of the fans I got actually came out of T-birds. I believe they are described in some info that you posted earlier as Mark VIII type assemblies with different motors but they blow waaay more air than any aftermarket fan I've messed with.
As far a sensor locations go a t-stat housing with a threaded bung is a start for one but I haven't figured out the other yet.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fordworth
Both of the fans I got actually came out of T-birds. I believe they are described in some info that you posted earlier as Mark VIII type assemblies with different motors but they blow waaay more air than any aftermarket fan I've messed with.
As far a sensor locations go a t-stat housing with a threaded bung is a start for one but I haven't figured out the other yet.
Heater hose is a good location, just tee into it with a ground wire.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Heater hose is a good location, just tee into it with a ground wire.

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That would work fine. I figure you could also put a pipe ell in the manifold outlet for the heater then a pair tee's with the switches in the side ports and the barbed fitting for the heater hose in the end of the second tee. That would maintain the ground but be pretty ugly, especially if you used galvanized pipe fittings. I just hate seeing those in automotive applications.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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That would work fine. I figure you could also put a pipe ell in the manifold outlet for the heater then a pair tee's with the switches in the side ports and the barbed fitting for the heater hose in the end of the second tee. That would maintain the ground but be pretty ugly, especially if you used galvanized pipe fittings. I just hate seeing those in automotive applications.
I have seen that, and it is fairly unsightly. When I had my intake manifold off I drilled and tapped a 1/8" pipe thread port near the temp sensor for an auxillary gauge. Works trick.

If my truck doesn't sell before Summer I will probably tee into the heater hose and install some sensors for automatic fan operation. The on-off-on toggle works just fine for me, but if my wife drives the truck the concept of "watching the temp to know when to turn on the fan" doesn't register that well, so I toggle it to LOW-ON and leave it for her.

Which doesn't bother me, but in my mind I think it makes the t-stat work too hard trying to keep the engine warm battling the fan, which is keeping the coolant cold.

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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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I have seen that, and it is fairly unsightly. When I had my intake manifold off I drilled and tapped a 1/8" pipe thread port near the temp sensor for an auxillary gauge. Works trick.

Josh

That was another thought I had. You just need to try to find a thick spot for larger 3/8" or 1/2" NPT holes.

Why are you selling that badass truck?
 
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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:43 PM
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That was another thought I had. You just need to try to find a thick spot for larger 3/8" or 1/2" NPT holes.

Why are you selling that badass truck?
It's crazy to think I will have had the truck 18 years this coming April. Just think it's time to move onto something else and I was seriously considering a diesel, but with the way prices are moving again I'm not sure.

The fuel prices of 2008 (Diesel over $5 a gallon) are one of the main reasons I no longer have my 2005 6.0 Powerstroke.

But the main reason is I don't think I will ever drive the truck on a daily basis with 9-12 mpg, but then again a 4 cylinder diesel swap (4bt, Isuzu etc) seems like an idea....

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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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Because of the thickness of the Taurus fan, it may be a problem dodging my w/p pulley.

I have seen a lot of guys with tight spaces use the ford contour dual set up. It is a single speed, dual 12" system.

Does anyone know anything about this set up?The shroud covers more of the rad. too.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Is it a tight fit with it flush against rad or on a bracket??
 
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