Whats wrong with your IDI?

 

Most people that are used to a diesel have that reaction. They expect it to pull at 1600 RPM like a 7.3 PSD and it won't.

At that RPM it comes up 200lbft short of the 7.3.

You have to let them sing when your pulling, towing anything over 5K my V10 lives in the 3100-4700 RPM range and it pulls great.

And before you say anything, no that is not hard on them, they were made to take it.

 

I have never heard of it being a problem, you give it a little boost and the V10 gains power vary fast. I think most of the guys with turbos are running super unleaded and custom PCM tuning for the fuel map and spark curve, which fixes that problem.
The plug problem is blown way out of proportion.

Yes, some did blow a plug( one guy blew 3). Its a vary easy fix, or so i'v heard. I have yet to blow one.

The PI heads are not so I can turbo it, I am wanting to do that just for the power. The PI heads were used from 00-04 on the V10 and make around 40 more HP and 30 TQ more than the 97-99 NPI heads.

I will do that for the N/A HP before I ever get around to the turbo.

As far as HGs, the whole motor can take boost to 500 RWHP, the Rods are the weakest link.

 

No, its fine.

I'm playing games with the DMV. I have a '79 F150 4wd with a fresh engine I wanted to break in and drive to work out the bugs, so that I can sell it. The tags had been expired for several years and the renewal month was about 2 months early. So I was going to pay full registration but only get 1 year from a 2 year renewal. They wouldn't let me pro rate the extra 2 months nor would they sell me new plates for the renewal fee like they would with an out of state vehicle. So, I had them transfer the plates from my IDI for $6 and then renewed the plates on the anniversary date for the '79's plates. With as much money as I give them every year, you'd think they would be accomodating. Granted, Oregon is one of the cheapest states for registration, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

Jason

 

Thats weird, Texas is really kind of easy on that.

They still do have some weird crap.

Their is a $25 fee for every month you do not put a new vehicle in your name, but you must have insurance to put it in your name.

So if you buy a non running truck you have to pay insurance on for the first month just to get the title in your name.

If you buy it and park it, and then get the title in your name 5 years later, its a $1500 fee!

 

Well i figure ill throw in my .02 cents for fun. The trucks on the farm we have that i have towed with are
92 IDI w/ATS 5 spd
94 w/ 460 5 spd 3" exaust no cat
99 v-10 5- spd stock
03 6.0 auto stock
all trucks are 4wd 4 door long box F-350s except the 92 is a ext. cab F-250 4x4
in rank as far as unloaded goes i say 03 99 92 94

loaded (approx 14,000 +truck) 03 92 94 99.
all the trucks have 300k + except the 99 164000 and the 03 126000. Never had a problem with the 92 or 94. the 92 always was and still is babied but the 94 has had the worst life i could ever imagine for a truck and never a problem. the 99 has had nothing but problems its entire life and spits glow plugs like theyre sunflower seeds. We just did injectors on the 6.0 and its a beast.

Overall, theyre all great trucks except the 6.4, imo the v-10 is the most over-rated underperforming POS we have ever owned, and tho there is few of em around here everyone i know with one is of the same opinion. BTW 6.0 get 20mpg empty and around 15 loaded the idi gets about 17 empty and 11 loaded. the 460 gets 12 empty and 11 loaded lol. and the v-10 gets 13 if you drive it like theres eggshells under the go pedal, but loaded it only gets 9. Oh, we had a 01 150 with a 5.4 for about 4 months, real good on get up and go, but no pulling power whatsoever. The easiest to pull with is by far the 03 with the 92 in second and 94 a quick 3rd. I hate pulling with the 99 because youre always grabbing gears for hills and bill isnt kidding about keeping the rpms up, you have to nail those things ***** to the wall.

 

Say what you want, but I have a 460 a 7.3 IDI and the V10.

The IDI I have not loaded with more than 3K but I was not at all impressed.
The 460 has less power and less torque than the V10 and gets 6-8 MPG at the very best.

The V10 gets about the mileage you list, and you do have to rev it but it pulls hard when you do.

I have also towed with a 7.3 PSD and a 5.4, the V10 is the hardest pulling of all the trucks I have driven.


the 97-99 only has 275HP, so the 6.0 will out pull them.
The 05-10 V10 with 362HP will out run the 6.0 loaded or empty.

 

This is coming from a friend that is a mechanic for ford and buys a new truck every year and He had two different. He told me NOT to buy a 6.0 because it wouldn't do for me he said it would smoke the 7.3s empty but wouldn't even think about pulling and working with the 7.3. I have a friend that I work with that has a chipped 7.3 and pulls a large 5th wheel with 5 slides and it will pull and run, if he puts it on race it will break the tires lose at 50.

 

I might get a 7.3 power stroke at some point but I will never get a 6.0 or 6.4.
They are not reliable enough and they cost too much to work on. Only time will tell but I bet the same thing gos for the new 6.7s.

 

yea, i was a little dissapointed with how soon we started loosing injectors with ours. I havent pulled against or with a 7.3psd, but i know that 6.0 is a pullin ****. Can load our big bubba trailer up with about 11k pounds of hay and pull 7% grades all day long and pick up speed. the 7.5 loses a little, but about 2/3 the way up the hill you have to grab 3rd in the v-10. Im thinking we got a crappy one, or you have a really good running one... or a combination of both.

 

If you hit it at 70 you can floor it and gain speed? I can't do that. lol


My V10 would hold about 65 on a hill like that, with my auto in second. ( your third) The V10 really likes to rev, I would run about 3/4 throttle in 4th until I got down to about 68-69 and then power shift it down to third and run full throttle if I was you.
You should loose speed until about 65 and then hit the 6.8ls peak and hold speed the rest of the way up.

Thats if you have 3.73s in the rear end like I do, but 4.10s or 4.30s would not be that different.


Kind of a combo of both I think. Mine is not perfect, it has a few missing ( cracked and fell off )manifold studs like they tend to do, i need to put new headers and Y pipe on it.
I'v had a few vacuum lines rot, coils burn out and had to replace a 2 sensors.
Still great for the amount of crap I have put it through.

Other than blowing a plug, what problems has it had?

 

LOL, that's funny. My neighbors have gotten used to the peeing off the porch. The people on the highway don't always have a sence of humor tho. LOL

 

That's my experience too. My bud wanted me to go help him haul some hay last weekend. Mine is 99 stroker F350 with a 25 foot tandem dual gooseneck, his V10 is 2000 F250 with a 20 foot dual axle single wheel gooseneck. Both trucks 4X4 his auto, mine 6 speed both with stock size tires. He had 12 round bales, I had 15. After that he has been running around all week looking to trade his truck for a diesel. Funny thing is. I'm looking at a F350 single rear wheel V10. It is a one owner and is immaculate. I've known it since new and dang it's nice plus the guy is practically giving it away.

 

LOL practically giving it away maybe a reason. lol

 

well if you need to tach the v10 so high to get her to pull a load then its going to consume a lot of fuel to do it.so in the long run,it would just be less expensive to save up for the diesel.with fuel prices today,im surprised to see people opt for a big gas engine in a work truck.i guess you really have to be afraid of the diesel to opt for a v10,or just think you can save money,when actually,the $ per mile over a 10 yr ownership term should be much less.unless the new diesels really just don't hold up like the old IDI's?
like 4wd for me.once i tried this diesel,i'l never go back to a gas job for my work rig.everyone runs/works their rigs so different tho,it's a good thing we have the options.