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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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What is everyone using for the rear c-notch kits and flip kit? I know fat many sells a kit but its $600!!! Aim has one but I was going to have them email me actual photos of the kit as all their pics are the same.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper19
What is everyone using for the rear c-notch kits and flip kit? I know fat many sells a kit but its $600!!! Aim has one but I was going to have them email me actual photos of the kit as all their pics are the same.
I bought the brackets and u bolts from AIM for $100 to relocate the rear axle and I spent about $12 for metal to do my own c-notch.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by instig8r63
I bought the brackets and u bolts from AIM for $100 to relocate the rear axle and I spent about $12 for metal to do my own c-notch.
You are so evil cutting the frame like that!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Has anyone used either the AIM or thorbros aka suicidedoors.com c-notch kit? I know suicidedoors is a universal bolt in. Also how are the AIM axle flip saddles for our rear-ends? Do they fit nice and snug?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elgemcdlf
You are so evil cutting the frame like that!
yeah but my fab skills are good enough that I could return it from whence it came in one weekend.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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Something I saw over on fe.com, "Anyone can build a hot rod, it takes a real man to cut one up.". You go, Bobby!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Well without much help I was able to call around and talk to some people who know a lot about these trucks.

There isn't hardly anything offered for flip kit and c-notch kits other than fatman or aim that are weld on or bolt-on and go. So I was put in touch with WelderSeries.com and was setup with a weld-on notch and boxing plate for under $30. Cheaper than a universal bolt-on notch and cheaper than I could literally build my own weld-on.

This is the plate welderseries offers and all I need to do is cut it to fit the width of my frame rails and I can get both sides out of the $8 piece.
Formed Notch Plate | Welder Series Inc.

Along with that I got a 3/16" thick steel plate 26"x13" all for under $30 shipped to my door. I will be able to start working on my 70 once I finish my 89's paint job.

Just for reference, this is what I was looking for to do on my 70 but it doesnt seem there is much of a market for slamming these beasts on the ground (static drop anyway).

My 89 f150
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Maybe somebody will be able to fab up something like this one day and make fatmans prices go down on his kit.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by instig8r63
I bought the brackets and u bolts from AIM for $100 to relocate the rear axle and I spent about $12 for metal to do my own c-notch.
How did you like the fitment on the axle flip brackets?

I've heard from several people they didnt fit very snug
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper19
How did you like the fitment on the axle flip brackets?

I've heard from several people they didnt fit very snug
I trimmed and adjusted mine to where they fit real nice.

Here's a thread with pics of my c-notch...> http://www.fordification.com/forum/v...hp?f=5&t=56337
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Great job and love the detailed pics. When you say trim, what exactly did you trim?

Also the u-bolt plates and u-bolts in the pics on fordification are from the aim kit with the axle relocator saddles?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Thumper19
Great job and love the detailed pics. When you say trim, what exactly did you trim?

Also the u-bolt plates and u-bolts in the pics on fordification are from the aim kit with the axle relocator saddles?
Yes, the kit included u-bolts, plates and saddles.
The tabs on the saddles were a taste too long and didn't allow the axle tubes to contact/seat into the saddle brackets. I trimmed the tabs and hand filed the area where the tubes seat for a more custom fit.
One thing that isn't in the Fordification thread is that I'm going to also make an extender bracket to bolt onto the lower shock mount tab on the housing that will move the lower mount location of the shock forward a bit. The shocks work well as they are but I'd like them to have a little less angle.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2012 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by instig8r63
Yes, the kit included u-bolts, plates and saddles.
The tabs on the saddles were a taste too long and didn't allow the axle tubes to contact/seat into the saddle brackets. I trimmed the tabs and hand filed the area where the tubes seat for a more custom fit.
One thing that isn't in the Fordification thread is that I'm going to also make an extender bracket to bolt onto the lower shock mount tab on the housing that will move the lower mount location of the shock forward a bit. The shocks work well as they are but I'd like them to have a little less angle.
Sweet! I'm happy to hear that. Most the stuff from AIM has been hit or miss for me with bag brackets. I will call them tomorrow and order that kit. Minor trimming wont be to bad for me to do. My notch setup will be similar to yours but I plan on using a triangulated piece of steel. From my experience with lowered trucks both chevy and ford, you can actually get away with a shock angle of almost 120* with proper shocks that have the correct valving for lowered trucks. Doetsch Tech is who I get most my shocks through and they specialize in only shocks for lowered or lifted vehicles. I would be curious to see how you fab up a bracket though. Fatmans looks pretty simply and i know welderseries.com sells shock tabs that can be cut and welded any way to fit.

I will stay tuned to your pojects. The most thing that has me curious is when you bought a new drive shaft. When doing a flip kit I was told you actually make the driveshaft longer. That is why there is an inch offset hole in the saddles that is supposed to go towards the front of the truck.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Thumper19
Sweet! I'm happy to hear that. Most the stuff from AIM has been hit or miss for me with bag brackets. I will call them tomorrow and order that kit. Minor trimming wont be to bad for me to do. My notch setup will be similar to yours but I plan on using a triangulated piece of steel. From my experience with lowered trucks both chevy and ford, you can actually get away with a shock angle of almost 120* with proper shocks that have the correct valving for lowered trucks. Doetsch Tech is who I get most my shocks through and they specialize in only shocks for lowered or lifted vehicles. I would be curious to see how you fab up a bracket though. Fatmans looks pretty simply and i know welderseries.com sells shock tabs that can be cut and welded any way to fit.

I will stay tuned to your pojects. The most thing that has me curious is when you bought a new drive shaft. When doing a flip kit I was told you actually make the driveshaft longer. That is why there is an inch offset hole in the saddles that is supposed to go towards the front of the truck.
I took before and after pics and measurements of the slip yoke on the driveshaft and after lowering the truck I had less than 1" travel left in the driveshaft. My truck is a short bed with 3600# Flexomatic springs and a 9-3/8" rear end.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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Alright guys. Sorry for taking so long to post up pics. I cam down with a nasty case of the flu. So, as excited as I was....I hurt too bad to even take any pics. Anyways, I just took some quick cell phone pics, so you guys could get an idea of what she looks like. When I feel better, I will get some pics with the DSLR, that I've been documenting the entire build with.


As far as overall opinions... despite all the troubles getting the correct parts, I am extremely happy with the final results. It sits nice and low. Now let me tell you this. FOr everyone questioning William William about ride quality, and the clearance of the bump stop.....He was 100% correct. The clearance is almost identical to mine. I drove it for about half an hour, taking city streets, a little bit of off road (dirt), and highway driving. I braked hard, accelerated hard, and turned in and out of a steep driveway. It handles like a dream!!!! Much better than before. The ride is actually better than before as well. (probably because of the new shocks) I could probably go another half inch lower in the rear, because I did not remove any of the leaf springs. I'm going to wait until my wheels get here, to finally see it's going to sit.

Either way, I'm satisfied!

nice again, sorry for the crappy cell phone pics....


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How much did you lower this truck? (Front and rear)
And what size are these wheels and tires, and what sizes are you looking to get?
If you don't mind me asking?
Thanks
 
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