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Old Feb 9, 2020 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruckin69
Thanks for the info. Now can I get a confirmation for interchangeability. My motor is a stock 73 351m from a car.
1. Is it Cardone 208606 which is now 50-6002 the right PS pump or is there a different one?
2, What hoses do I use and where can I find them?
3. What bracket can I use to mount the PS pump?
4. I read you have to use parts that use the same type fluid???

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Hey, you PM'd me. I'm not an expert on hydroboost systems, nor the p/s brackets for diff. engines. I only know what's what for my engine, not yours. Sorry. Do a search here, and google outside the forum if you can't find the answers you need. Good luck.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 09:19 AM
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Hey, F250. I am stumped even with internet searches. Anyone else on the questions?

Thanks for the info. Now can I get a confirmation for interchangeability. My motor is a stock 73 351m from a car.
1. Is it Cardone 208606 which is now 50-6002 the right PS pump or is there a different one?
2, What hoses do I use and where can I find them?
3. What bracket can I use to mount the PS pump?
4. I read you have to use parts that use the same type fluid???

 
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Old Feb 10, 2020 | 09:21 AM
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Hey F250, I searched the web but am stumped. Anyone else want to chime in? Thanks!!!

Thanks for the info. Now can I get a confirmation for interchangeability. My motor is a stock 73 351m from a car.
1. Is it Cardone 208606 which is now 50-6002 the right PS pump or is there a different one?
2, What hoses do I use and where can I find them?
3. What bracket can I use to mount the PS pump?
4. I read you have to use parts that use the same type fluid???


I actually found this at Wild Horses. So this would work as while I believe.

https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/product/Saginaw-Delphi-Steering-Pump-Bracket-Set/Fullsize-Bronco-Steering-Pump#minicart_a

 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruckin69
Hey F250, I searched the web but am stumped. Anyone else want to chime in? Thanks!!!

Thanks for the info. Now can I get a confirmation for interchangeability. My motor is a stock 73 351m from a car.
1. Is it Cardone 208606 which is now 50-6002 the right PS pump or is there a different one?
2, What hoses do I use and where can I find them?
3. What bracket can I use to mount the PS pump?
4. I read you have to use parts that use the same type fluid???


I actually found this at Wild Horses. So this would work as while I believe.

https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/produc...ump#minicart_a
Maybe you can find something useful in my install.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...t-install.html

From your comments it seems to me that you are making the swap to a Hydroboost harder than it needs to be. Based on my HB experience and reading on this site, use the pump you have, use normal PS fluid, use the brackets you have, You can slot the mounting holes on your master to fit the HB, or use a similarly sized master(MS bore size) with the correct bolt pattern.. The master cylinder is sized to match the calipers and wheel cylinders volume, HB or stock booster doesn't matter. Pressure hoses are really the only tricky bit.

Jess
 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphXL
Maybe you can find something useful in my install.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...t-install.html

From your comments it seems to me that you are making the swap to a Hydroboost harder than it needs to be. Based on my HB experience and reading on this site, use the pump you have, use normal PS fluid, use the brackets you have, You can slot the mounting holes on your master to fit the HB, or use a similarly sized master(MS bore size) with the correct bolt pattern.. The master cylinder is sized to match the calipers and wheel cylinders volume, HB or stock booster doesn't matter. Pressure hoses are really the only tricky bit.

Jess
Thanks Jesse. So one more question, minus the holes not lining up on the master cylinder, my old one that was on my vacuum setup will be fine on a Superduty HB? I was told I need to hook up a plunger rod.
Thanks for the clarification!!!!
 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruckin69
Thanks Jesse. So one more question, minus the holes not lining up on the master cylinder, my old one that was on my vacuum setup will be fine on a Superduty HB? I was told I need to hook up a plunger rod.
Thanks for the clarification!!!!
If you are referring to the rod that pushes from the booster into the master, yes. You will need to confirm that it is the correct length for your master. If you got your HB from a junk yard the HB should already have the rod in it.

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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruckin69
Hey F250, I searched the web but am stumped. Anyone else want to chime in? Thanks!!!

Thanks for the info. Now can I get a confirmation for interchangeability. My motor is a stock 73 351m from a car.
1. Is it Cardone 208606 which is now 50-6002 the right PS pump or is there a different one?
2, What hoses do I use and where can I find them?
3. What bracket can I use to mount the PS pump?
4. I read you have to use parts that use the same type fluid???


I actually found this at Wild Horses. So this would work as while I believe.

https://www.wildhorses4x4.com/produc...ump#minicart_a
Order the hoses for a F-SuperDuty they will fit your pump and steering gear. You can use stock 351m PS brackets. After all these years I will suggest using the stock F-SuperDuty master cylinder and push rod. It makes the swap easy.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
Order the hoses Ford a F-SuperDuty they will fit your pump and steering gear. You can use stock 351m PS brackets. After all these years I will suggest using the stock F-SuperDuty master cylinder and push rod. It makes the swap easy.
Thank you all.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 03:50 PM
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Okay, first off thanks everybody for their input on this. I finally did mine and it was actually very simple and I made it more complicated that had to be.
So I found a Superduty mid-90s truck I think a 94 and took the hydroboost. They unfortunately cut the hoses off of it at the junkyard so I had to get new ones at Advance Auto Parts but I think it was $18 a piece. I also had to get a new 94 Superduty power steering pump that fit exactly on my 351m bracket because the connection fitting from my power steering box was different then the 94 pump. I swapped the pulley and bracket from my old one and what is cool is that the mid-90s power steering pump for a Superduty has 2 returns on it otherwise it was exactly the same as the one that was on my truck so there was no need to T the line. The only modification I had to do on this system was to turn the mounting bracket that mounts to the firewall upside down as stated in the thread. It bolted perfectly up to the brake pedal. I also purchased a new master cylinder. All parts ran under $75. After I bled the brakes and put more power steering fluid in the pump in it works perfect. It does whine so I need to figure that out probably need to keep adding fluid to the system but other than that, I believe we're good to go. Thanks everyone.

So parts list:
91-97 Superduty Hydroboost with bracket turned upside down and holes enlarged
New hoses because they cut them
New pump because the hose fitting was different
New Master cylinder
Brake Fluid
Power steering Fluid

DONE


This second pic is the fitting that was on my original truck that was different than the 94..



 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 08:24 PM
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Good Job. I've been trying to get a fitting to match the one in your last picture. I want to get rid of the factory style hose and switch over to an style stuff. This fitting to 6 -an is the last thing I need.

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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphXL
Good Job. I've been trying to get a fitting to match the one in your last picture. I want to get rid of the factory style hose and switch over to an style stuff. This fitting to 6 -an is the last thing I need.

Jess
You can't get that fitting that's why you have to switch your power steering pump to match the 94 hose. Possibly because ford switch to metric??? I tried every shop in NJ and none could do it.
Pump costs 25$ with core.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2020 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruckin69
You can't get that fitting that's why you have to switch your power steering pump to match the 94 hose. Possibly because ford switch to metric??? I tried every shop in NJ and none could do it.
Pump costs 25$ with core.
It's not the pump end. The pump end is in your first picture. I need the end that goes to the HB.
This one on the right(I lost the o-ring), the new one is one that I bought that I read would work. Russell #648060, -6an to M16 x 1.5. It doesn't fit.
For the pump end I just removed the large fitting that attaches to the pump from the truck I got the HB unit from, the hose end threads into that. No need to change pumps.



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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphXL
It's not the pump end. The pump end is in your first picture. I need the end that goes to the HB.
This one on the right(I lost the o-ring), the new one is one that I bought that I read would work. Russell #648060, -6an to M16 x 1.5. It doesn't fit.
For the pump end I just removed the large fitting that attaches to the pump from the truck I got the HB unit from, the hose end threads into that. No need to change pumps.



Jess
I understand, I was nervous to do that so I decided to get a new pump. It was cheap anyway.
I bought new hoses that have base correct fitting from Advanced Auto for like $18 each.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2020 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphXL
It's not the pump end. The pump end is in your first picture. I need the end that goes to the HB.
This one on the right(I lost the o-ring), the new one is one that I bought that I read would work. Russell #648060, -6an to M16 x 1.5. It doesn't fit.
For the pump end I just removed the large fitting that attaches to the pump from the truck I got the HB unit from, the hose end threads into that. No need to change pumps.



Jess
I understand, I was nervous to do that so I decided to get a new pump. It was cheap anyway.
 

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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 06:33 AM
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Vacuum Line

What do I do with the vacuum line that goes from the intake into the old vacuum booster after the hydroboost conversion? Its a T. Do I plug if or leave it open?
 
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