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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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thats what I was thinking of for mine,, its hard to explain ,, but if you can picture a piece of box tubing running parallel to the ground (as in same direction as the frame rails oposite angel to the 4"x4" box accross the front) anyways have that fully welded in on both sides then atatch the clevis tab to that the box tubing would be roughly the size of the clevis tab, not to big but enough so it has alot of welded surface area and is tied in to both sides of the tubing.. does that make sense??
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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sorry i didnt add this but im sure you caught on.. the pice of box tubing would be welded inside the 4x4" tubing.. im sure you got that and your going "duhhhh" but ohwell. lol
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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I think I got it - it will be like my hitch receiver tube?

If so - that should be enough weld surface
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:16 AM
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exactly,, dang,, that would have been the easiest possible way to describe it to you,. ha ohhwell, yes, thats wat my plans were for the d rings.. good i thought that would be a good design for the d rings,
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oh lol and for what its worth i really appreciate the help with this project...
im only 15 and am doing this whole project by my self,, besides the 5 min advice on this project from my dad everything on the truck has been done by just me.. and this web sight..
ugh tuff job!!!
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:36 AM
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Good deal! Keep practicing and building and this stuff will become second nature.

Although I did my own "work" on my truck when I was 15 I didn't start doing any real fabrication until I was 19 or 20 maybe. Now I'm 29 and most of this stuff is pretty easy. Both to design and build. It just ALWAYS takes longer than I plan!!!!
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:50 AM
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haha yea your tellin me,, i got this "project" from a buddy of mine that said he was building a big wheeler,,
well it turns out his version of a big wheeler is a bare 4x4 frame,, and a 2 wheel drive truck.. yea.. well i saw some pics of the truck from a few years back when it real nice..but i took his word for it and told him to bring it over and id buy it..
well he said that the 2wd was really strait except the bed that got hit by a tree,,,hm ok guess thats doable.....

but there was more then he said that the frame needs some work to
ughh,,, ok fine i guess ill see what i can do


thats the strait truck......... hmmmmmmm


thats the frame that just needs a little work
but its getting there,, its been 3 long months
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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If he would have showed up to my place with that I would have had him turn around. If he really needed to leave it with me - it would have to be for FREE!

Oh well - you will learn a TON with this project!!!!
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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before




during


here is a crapy cell phone pic of it after the dash and floor was painted,, bad glare on the floor,, its actually high gloss black on the floor that turned out great,


cab of the 2wd


first of 3 coats of primer
its coming
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 02:04 AM
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haha yea it happens,, i needed something to reall work at,, guy can cosmetically clean up a rig usually,, but i wanted to be able to say i took a sh@$y 2wd and made a bad a$$ 4x4
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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Ok - had a crappy night - but I got work done.

Started with a guy coming to the shop to buy some tires/wheels off me that I had on craigslist. I am asking $125 - he offers $40. I politely said no effin way and closed the shop door to go to work.

Then I started messing with my new GPS I bought off eBay. Well... wouldn't ya know it won't turn on. I messed with it for an hour and hooked it up to 3 different batteries to make sure it was getting power. Yeah - nothing And half way through the auction the guy says he would accept PayPal anymore and only cashier's checks. Gonna be fun getting my large chunk of change back

Ok - so then I got to work. I drilled more holes (what else do I ever do??) and then I got to weld. Welding usually mellows me out and puts me in a good mood and tonight was no different luckily

So here are the end plates or spring mounts


some pretty beads




Got one side all welded up


This is how they will go together



That was all I got done tonight. I had to leave early so I could go to Kinkos to spend an hour making copies of crap to dispute some BS I found on my credit report.

Hopefully tomorrow will be a bit better. And with that - I'm off to bed
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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haha funny sh@$ with the craigs list add.. glad you told him what was up, ha.
I was just wondering,, would you happen to have a picture of your templet used for your spring hanger tabs,,?? or maybe a cad print out??,, i like the design you came up with and wouldnt mind cloning haha!
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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PM me with your email address and I can send you a PDF or a cad file if you have cad. I will warn you though - the area inside the hangers is tight and won't fit a military wrap spring.

When I was 1st designing this thing I just measured the OD of the stock spring end. Then when I picked up some superduty springs for a buddy recently I noticed just how much larger the spring eyes were. And the military wrap on top of that makes them HUGE. Well, I went back and adjusted my design as best I could to accommodate a larger spring eye - but since I was already 1/2 way done with this thing I couldn't change it too much.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Steve, did you compensate for the added width of the Super Duty bushing? I mean cutting down the bushing is easy enough, I was just curious of you intended to run a stock style SD bushing, or you had planed on making some Delrin units.
I think there is some articulation to be found here. A wider hanger will prevent the soring from striking the hanger when it is all twisted up. I could probably gain another inch in each direction of my hangers were slightly wider. Under mad articulation, my leafs hit the hangers now. YOu also know of the bushing problems I have been having with the vulcanized rubber ones, so maybe you had this in mind when you were in the design mode.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Good point to bring up for others doing this.

I am not "normal" as I am not really building any "lift" into my spring hangers. Most people doing this do so to gain some lift. I moved my spring mount holes down only 1" from stock, which should only net a tiny "lift". Even then I only did so to gain a little more clearance between the steering box and tire at full bump.

I like my truck at pretty much the stock ride height and therefore I had never really "planned" to run the superduty leafs (hanging on to the hope that my stockers will work fine with the cummins). So no, I didn't really plan for the SD stuff.

I made the spring mounts the stock 3.5" wide. I don't need NEAR the flex you require, so if I end up with the SD stuff the delrin should be good enough for me.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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You answered that exactly as I figured you would. Could be you are just that predictable, or that I am starting to learn what goes on in your 'noodle' when the gears are turning.
Thought that I would mention this since your posts have been getting hits like crazy.
If the heigth requires some adjustment, this is a great place to make such adjustments. One does have to compensate for caster changes when any change to the hanger is made. Shackle length adjustments should be considered, actually have to be made in order to retain reasonable caster angles.
Many readers have visited this thread, so as much information included here can be a benefit to those searching for such info later.
"Search", assuming that the function gets used, lol.
 
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