front Spring hangers
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front Spring hangers
im trying to build a custom front spring hangers for my rig and i was wondering where some of you guys got yours from.. Ive searched the web a lot but if anybody knows some web sights that sell these that would be great.
i plant on using a 4"x4" piece of box metal framing across the front with the spring hangers below it. i have the 4x4 and gussets and tabs and what not but i haven't found a weld on spring hanger that will work for my needs..
i plant on using a 4"x4" piece of box metal framing across the front with the spring hangers below it. i have the 4x4 and gussets and tabs and what not but i haven't found a weld on spring hanger that will work for my needs..
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also if anybody has pictures of one of there builds where they made their own front spring hangers that would help.. if i have to make them thats fine. i just thought i would check to see if i could buy them if possible.
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Thank you for the kind words. Gonna make me blush.
Couple of things to consider. The spring hangers locate the axle, and dictate the caster angles. You will have to lower or lengthen the shackle by the same amount to maintain the proper angles.
Now, You can lower them in the manner that you mentioned and all will be fine as mong as it is withon reason, But I might ask, what will this block of steel accomplish that a proper spring will not?
If this truck gets stuck the recovery places quite a bit of stress on these points and by moving the hanger away from the frame the leverage becomes greater. I have seen complete axles stay stuck in the mud and the springs ripper from these style hangers.
Regardless, just know that there are potential repercisions for any mod.
Now, as long as you are making stuff, why not use the stock hanger? It would be very easy to attach these to the bottom of the square tubing.
Also note that a 78/9 front hanger is a bolt on. Once you cap the ends of the square tubing, you can weld or bolt the stuff together.
Also, this is a good time to install a front mounting point. You can add a piece of 2" reciever tubing that can accomodate a front recovery point.
Couple of things to consider. The spring hangers locate the axle, and dictate the caster angles. You will have to lower or lengthen the shackle by the same amount to maintain the proper angles.
Now, You can lower them in the manner that you mentioned and all will be fine as mong as it is withon reason, But I might ask, what will this block of steel accomplish that a proper spring will not?
If this truck gets stuck the recovery places quite a bit of stress on these points and by moving the hanger away from the frame the leverage becomes greater. I have seen complete axles stay stuck in the mud and the springs ripper from these style hangers.
Regardless, just know that there are potential repercisions for any mod.
Now, as long as you are making stuff, why not use the stock hanger? It would be very easy to attach these to the bottom of the square tubing.
Also note that a 78/9 front hanger is a bolt on. Once you cap the ends of the square tubing, you can weld or bolt the stuff together.
Also, this is a good time to install a front mounting point. You can add a piece of 2" reciever tubing that can accomodate a front recovery point.
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im sorry i should have explained my situation a lil more before stating my question..
What i have is the piece of seal welded on the front of my frame with two 3/4" thick clevis tabs welded on each side for my D rings. and in the center i have the receiver hitch to except various hooks .. so yes i believe it is just that (2" receiver tubing). the reason i dont use my old ones is they are completly rusted out
pretty sad.. but thats what the project started out like... i guess i could go to the u pull it yard and look at what the 78/9 hangers look like and see if they could work for my build..
thanks again
What i have is the piece of seal welded on the front of my frame with two 3/4" thick clevis tabs welded on each side for my D rings. and in the center i have the receiver hitch to except various hooks .. so yes i believe it is just that (2" receiver tubing). the reason i dont use my old ones is they are completly rusted out
pretty sad.. but thats what the project started out like... i guess i could go to the u pull it yard and look at what the 78/9 hangers look like and see if they could work for my build..thanks again
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I run 8" leafs with a couple of leafs removed to bring the truck down and I clear 39.5" boggers.
My truck with 44's does not have that much lift. That seems like a bunch. I am not opposed to it, but is that much necessary?
Just a question, not a criticism, please dont take this wrong.
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no i know its just a question.. to be honest the 8" lift springs were owned by a buddy and i jumped at the idea of buying them with out really thinking. lol its just a truck a buddy of mine and I are building.. both of are dads had old fords like these so finding parts was almost as easy as searching through the shop. lol goes the same for the tires.. there what i have.. with 12" lift im sure i can fit larger but i still have to be able to drive this truck to school every morning if you know what I mean..
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Ed saw the print of this and the materials yesterday, but here is what I am doing on my crew.
Starting with a 3" x 5" 3/8" wall rectangular tube and whittling it down and adding a 2" receiver. I will be making the "spring hangers" out of a couple pieces of 3/16" that will bent to box the rectangular tube back in after cutting. I will only be dropping the pivot point of the spring 1" (not looking for much lift at all) but you get the idea of how to do it.
I will be bolting this assembly on using the stock holes that the rivets will be removed from. I'll run boss' through the rect. tube and 5/8" or so grade 8 bolts.
Hopefully this comes out big enough to see...
Starting with a 3" x 5" 3/8" wall rectangular tube and whittling it down and adding a 2" receiver. I will be making the "spring hangers" out of a couple pieces of 3/16" that will bent to box the rectangular tube back in after cutting. I will only be dropping the pivot point of the spring 1" (not looking for much lift at all) but you get the idea of how to do it.
I will be bolting this assembly on using the stock holes that the rivets will be removed from. I'll run boss' through the rect. tube and 5/8" or so grade 8 bolts.
Hopefully this comes out big enough to see...
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ChaseTruck754 is the "mad fabricator". That design he has (though we cant see it Steve) is a great design and should be plenty strong. This should stay tucked up nice and perform very well.
Here is another alternative:
Here is another alternative:
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Nice Ed. I'd love to see somebody else try and re-create a front like that. I was too lazy to!
As for my diagram/pic - is it really not loading? I loaded it in photoshop and I can see it in this thread
As for my diagram/pic - is it really not loading? I loaded it in photoshop and I can see it in this thread
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Did you copy the correct image code? I only see a square with a red "X" in it.
DO you remember this piece? This was gonna be the attempt to bolt up a later model Dana 60 to an early truck. Notice the spring hanger location? Also notice the front bolts holes to use the oribina bumper bolts for added strength.
While not an original design, These have been modeled after the chebby design that we copied some time ago. Nice piece actually.
DO you remember this piece? This was gonna be the attempt to bolt up a later model Dana 60 to an early truck. Notice the spring hanger location? Also notice the front bolts holes to use the oribina bumper bolts for added strength.
While not an original design, These have been modeled after the chebby design that we copied some time ago. Nice piece actually.
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I remember that thing Ed. I know how much work went into it and I'm not going that overboard - hahaha
Yeah - WTF with my red X. The dang pic was working before and now photobucket killed it. I reloaded the thing, edited my post, etc. and nothing.
I don't get it....
It seems to work here - so maybe it's just FTE????
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/cu...ml#post1792410
Yeah - WTF with my red X. The dang pic was working before and now photobucket killed it. I reloaded the thing, edited my post, etc. and nothing.
I don't get it....
It seems to work here - so maybe it's just FTE????
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/cu...ml#post1792410
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The dana 60's make a nice image, but that file appears to be just a red "X" in that forum as well.
Dunno what the dealio is.
Just as a note, that D60 might just get acid dipped. I was not aware that the inside was rusted too, and I dont like to run glass bed in there. I have a shop that does this, and I can pursuade them to do this for me. A few adult beverages can go a long way, lol.
Dunno what the dealio is.
Just as a note, that D60 might just get acid dipped. I was not aware that the inside was rusted too, and I dont like to run glass bed in there. I have a shop that does this, and I can pursuade them to do this for me. A few adult beverages can go a long way, lol.
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Thanks buddy!
As for the red X - I don't get it. SOmetimes the pic works and sometimes it doesn't. That is both here AND on the other forum I linked too. I tried to fix it in photobucket and got this...
Try reading that! That is IF it even shows up.
Oh well - too much effort spent on this already. People can see what I'm doing when I start building it
As for the red X - I don't get it. SOmetimes the pic works and sometimes it doesn't. That is both here AND on the other forum I linked too. I tried to fix it in photobucket and got this...
Try reading that! That is IF it even shows up.
Oh well - too much effort spent on this already. People can see what I'm doing when I start building it