What type of HHO Generator did you build? Is it using the stainless plates, or the stainless wire wrap type, or what?

I was testing mine on a 90 Acura Integra. I wanted to start small before I upsized for my truck. Now my truck isn't running anyway due to a bad transmission anyway.

I had put on a high flow air intake with the cone filter to make room for my mason jar. There was no room for it anywhere under the hood. I've wondered if the heat under the hood combined with the plate type setup contributed to the boiling.

By the way, when your generator is together, is it sealed or does it have a 'breather vent'? I originally was building it so that the jar sealed except for the hose to the air intake, but then I read in an article about a small vent to allow air in, through a tube to the bottom of the jar, for air to displace the water as it is used. Without the 'vent' I know is could build a vacuum in the jar. Maybe I needed that to happen.

Any advice or tips you have on what you built, would be helpful. It is helpful to have someone that I can converse with that is doing the same thing. Harder when no one is discussing it. Helps motivate me.

 

Hi Rick - I haven't got my hydrogen generator built yet; still rounding the parts. This one does not use a Mason jar but black 4 inch ABS pipe and has a 'bubbler' of ABS pipe to handle any backfire that might explode the hydrogen in the generator. It uses stainless steel outlet covers for the plate stack. You can visit my blog site at lesmcmillan.com for more info, and maybe click on the link shown. That will explain fully about the system and the manual I bought. You may get enough free info to revamp your system, but the manual and videos do go into a lot of detail that is important. By the way, my system will have a vacuum relief valve. Shouldn't boil as long as there is not too many amps. being fed in. Keep in touch. I have a bunch of summer things happening so it may be a few weeks before I get it all assembled and working..Les.

 

Cool, thanks!! I'll check out your link and think about a redesign. I'll keep in touch too.

 

There are two places where commercially-produced hydrogen gas (H-H) come from: oil refineries and nuclear plants. Either you strip it off a hydrocarbon, or it can be a product of nuclear reaction at a nuclear power plant.

Al Gore never mentions this: hydrogen comes from hydrocarbons, and does NOT reduce the amount of Carbon burned. (They just already burned off the Carbon to give you H-H. Because electrolysis is not efficient, it's just a science experiment that makes children go "Ooooooooooooooooh! Aaaaaaaaaaahh!")

 

Some 95% is produced from steam reforming of natural gas in oil refineries. The efficiency is below 30% and C02 is the byproduct. The C atom has to go somewhere. I hope drivers of the Honda FCX Clarity know this.

As gasoline and diesel prices go up this summer, this whole topic rises to the surface, only to disappear as fuel prices subside in fall.

 

For all you doubting Thomases out there, get to understand what we are talking about.
I am talking about using excess or unused electricity being generated by the alternator to break down water to it's components of oxygen and hydrogen. Want to test it? Get a glass jar of plain water, put in a tbs. of baking soda and stir to dissolve. Then drop in a small 9 volt battery. Electrolosis starts and you'll see bubbles of gas forming at each terminal. One terminal is oxygen and the other is hydrogen. On a larger scale producing more gas, it is possible and not that difficult to route these gasses into your motor's intake system to provide more fuel that burns faster and helps burn some of the unburnt hydrocarbons that ordinarially would go out the exhaust pipe. Extra burning mens extra power and thus better fuel mileage. It is possible to 'fool' the various sensors so they don't defeat the hydrogen input benefits.
I had a 1996 F250 and got the manual and was getting ready to install the system, but we decided to buy a bigger travel trailer and had to sell my truck and get a bigger newer truck. The buyer of my '96 is a car nut and he wants to install the system himself, so I'm loaning him the manual and will work with him. I'll keep you folks informed.
As for you that think it's a scam, or not practical, or whatever. check it out and use some common sense. Cheers!!!

 

See my last reply (May 6,2010). It can and does work. There are some systems and sellers that have questionable systems, but Hydro Water Power. com is a good one. look into it and follow some of the links.

 

So, I've been reading up on this 'technology' for a long time, and even built one for an older car I had. I couldn't get it to work properly, and it boiled the water in the jar. I'm sure I didn't get something correct.

Did you buy the ebook and build your own, or did you buy their kit? If you got the kit, did it come with the electronic controller to adjust the computer settings? I'd be interested in hearing more from you, either here, or PM me.
Thanks
Rick

 

"Oh yeah, man. It's totally like the car that NASA built for Congress, the one that ran on water. They built it back in the seventies, but the oil companies had the prototype destroyed and the pieces buried in secret places around the world. It's all a big conspiracy, man. We could all be running on WATER, dude! Like, totally bogus government suppression of technology. It will propagate on the Internet, where people can do it themselves now!" ...... "Oh wait, everybody who actually bothered to try t says that it doesn't work." ......... "It's a government conspiracy!"

At what point, in the face of overwhelming logic and dissenting scientists/engineers opinions, do you just roll over and admit when it's a dumb idea? It does not work with present technology. It would be awesomely cool if it *did* work. So, go work on inventing that system, and quit claiming this busted nonsense is going to work. It's a scam to get you to buy the $20 book, for goodness sake, who fails to see that?

FOR WHOM HAS THIS BULLONEY WORKED? I want to hear testimony from someone who installed it, but does not sell it please.

 

Exactly, thank you for putting it more eloquently than I could.

 

It is a scam. Research what "polar covalent bonding" is and how it applies to electrolysis, and you'll understand why HHO kits don't work on a vehicle.

Electrolysis is the most unefficient method there is to get hydrogen. Your little 30 amp circuit on a vehicle isn't nearly enough to get the job done.

 

I don't have time to read all five pages of this post. If this has been said, sorry in advance.

The quote above pertains to someone saying that they could produce 60 lpm of "hydroxy gas". That is one liter per second.

I have a 5.4l engine. If it idles at 600 rpm, I would need 2.7 liters per second to not suffocate the engine. Also, all of the fuel/air would have to come from this device and the concentration would have to be the exact right mixture to allow the engine to run.

As I accelerate down the road and reach 2400 rpm, now I would need 10.8 liters per second. All at a concentration that can generate power.

 

Chemical polarity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the basic info on the subject, can you explain what you're point is? And why are you so sekptical that this whole idea cannot possibly work, when several people just on this forum claim that it does? Have you actually tried using a system yourself, or are you just quoting what you read from books and other forum posts?

 

The point is that if you understand what polar covalent bonding is, then you would understand how much energy it takes to produce any quantity of gas from electrolysis, and why an automotive circuit can't physically produce enough power to generate the amount of hydrogen needed to actually improve mileage.


Because it doesn't work. And I'm not quoting other forum posts, I'm quoting actual real world physics.

And in your other thread, your HHO generator isn't working. Every single "mileage test" you have run is done with a fooler box turned on to limit the fueling and reduce the power in your truck engine, and you only run very short distances, like 30 miles.

It also doesn't work for anyone else in this thread either.

 

And you're wrong.