They do it the same way they do driver checkpoints. They stage in the middle of a street and check drivers as they come through. The CHP or the city police help direct traffic.

How do I know this, I have two nice BAR keychains from the 2 times I had to go through it. Once in City of Industry and another time up by the Paso Robles/San Luis Obispo area.

 

Hi Shaun,
What actually happens when you go through one of these lines? Do they make you pop open the hood and look under the truck? Anything particular about SLO or City of Industry? Never been through those areas... I travel mostly up in the Bay Area or further north

 

Face it folks? The E.P.A. has mandated these emission standards.It will be just a matter of time before they start checking randomly and for license renewal just like they do on your cars.The Feds don't care what it will cost the states or the people for compliance.
The heavy duty trucks are also under these rules and regulations,and we are all paying the price.Look at all the small trucking company owner operators who have lost their livelyhood due to the Calif.ports that have banned them because their not clean trucks and the price of retrofiting or replacing with new is out of sight for many.Only the big companies can afford to purchase the new clean trucks.Fuel milage,maintenance and longivity are affecting them also.Who will pay for this? You and me.....

 

Let me say that I am not a lawyer, I don't even play one on TV. But, I have read the latest EPA diesel emmision regs and the laws upon which it is based. And I was a 40 year fed so I know pretty much how to read governmenteze. There is a strict fine (if memory serves me its 10 large)for removing or altering the equipment and in the latest version of the law it can be levied upon an individual. However, by the law, the enforcement is to be accomplished by the attorney general. If past actions are an indicator, that enforcement will be handed down to the states. I can't speak for CA but most of the southern states have pretty much ignored it if anything was even passed down. I don't know of any that are testing diesels for emissions. We test gassers here in the ATL area but most of the state doesn't even do that. Unless there is a state law for them to cite you with I don't know what a state or local LEO would write the ticket for even if they knew you were supposed to have a DPF. Cats have been around since what the 70s? Have you ever heard of anyone getting a ticket for not having one? I haven't. You just fail emissions right? It's like any other federal law, the locals don't arrest you for being in the country illegally unless the state or city has a law against it, the Highway Patrol won't give you a ticket for not filing your federal income taxes. The sheriff won't arrest you for violating a federal air regulation. Of course, CA being a progressive heaven may have laws against all of those things and enforce them.

 

There is a saying in my biz:

"Past Performance is No Guarantee of Future Results"


3 things are changing the game:

- Revenue starved states needing money

- The widespread availability (and marketing of) very easy to use, portable tamper detecting devices (IR camera) etc. that can readily tell if you played around.

- Logging of data in the latest models of trucks, and inevitably, some jurisdiction will discover they can access the data via the manufacturer provided readers, or via their systems.


I hope I am wrong.

 

Both times, the BAR guys told me it was a study on the amount of contaminates that the diesel's emit. Whether that was the case, I don't know. But they looked under the hood, looked under the truck and connected to the OBD port. Then they told me thank you and gave me a key chain with the BAR logo and additional information and their website address and thanked me for my cooperation.

City of Industry happens to be where I work, about 12 miles South of Azusa, Covina, San Dimas, Glendora area where I lived. The San Luis Obispo area is where I have family and me and my brother took a trip to Lake Santa Margarita to fish. Not to familiar with that area other then the directions to the lake and too my Aunts house from the lake.

 

to be stoped and have the data of a pcm loged would reqiure a court order unless you were dumb enugh to say sure officer go ahead a search my junk.

 

I guess some one could do that but what would they charge you with? Even if they could charge you with the federal law why bother, the fine would go to the feds! unless they could find a state or city violation they get nothing. Besides, why do that when they can sit on the interstate and write speeding tickets until their hair catches fire, at least around here they could. And they get to keep all that money. I just don't see it happening. Before the feds would even look at us they would go after the commerical guys at the scales. Much easier. Or go after the people making and selling the delete kits. Probably scare them off with a letter, wouldn't even have to go by the place. That's a lot easier than looking for a diesel of the correct year and then finding one that was deleted. You can bet that if that was happening anywhere we would know it on here in a hurry.

 

In a certain north American jurisdiction, an experimental program basically did just what I said last year.

And pulled the plates from a whole stack of vehicles on the spot.

I guarantee you they are not the leaders in innovation in this area.

 

Cmon Now, Gearloose give us a break. You can't get by with that. Give us the jurisdiction and enough information to verify what you're saying. Do you have personal first hand knowledge of the event's? Who's expermential program was it? What did they charge violaters with? What was the punishment? What court can I find these records in. This is very important stuff to many members of this forum who either are or are planning to delete and tune. A $10,000 fine is nothing to sneeze at. If you have personal knowledge you should be able to tell us where to find the records, if you got your information on line please say so. Over the past 10 years I've read hundreds of on line write ups about arrest for over weight non commerical trucks and zero of them have been verifiable. So, if you have the goods please share, if not I shall remain a skeptic.

 

I do, and prefer not to post it... for I do not wish to be a "target".

For I do know that these sites are monitored... for targets.