4WD Hub question
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lol no offense nextras...but I dont think I've used the words "working" and "auto hubs" in the same sentence before. LOL!! =) And I hate to say this AGAIN but manuals are CHEAPER and STRONGER and EASIER to replace for Premiun Warn Hubs(top of the line)....and....if you dont want to hop out of your truck all you have to do is lock in the hubs before you hit the trail...you can still wheel in 2wd then when your ready you can still just push the button to pop it in four. no digging out hubs, none of that. But thats just what I do. I never get out except for at the end of the trail. But hey I understand where your coming from I didnt want to swamp mine either. But now that I have. Im VERY happy. No Problems since. and I have 2LO!!! BAD ****!!! Talk about tire shredding!!!
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Nextras there is no conversion process involved... All you do remove 1 nut and replace it with 2 nuts (and a locking ring)... I think you are cracking up the manual conversion to be much more than it actually is. The other guys are right, its easier to install manual hubs than it is to install autos.
EDIT: Scratch that. With your 5 screw hubs, I don't think you even need the conversion kit. You just need to replace the hub lockout with a manual one, and replace the cap with a switched cap...
EDIT: Scratch that. With your 5 screw hubs, I don't think you even need the conversion kit. You just need to replace the hub lockout with a manual one, and replace the cap with a switched cap...
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Originally Posted by FordTrucksRockMySock
Nextras there is no conversion process involved... All you do remove 1 nut and replace it with 2 nuts (and a locking ring)... I think you are cracking up the manual conversion to be much more than it actually is. The other guys are right, its easier to install manual hubs than it is to install autos.
i bought the hub so thats the end of the manual vs. auto
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I can't believe half of what is said in this thread.. what a waste of time, guys. Who cares if he wants to keep his auto's it's his choice? I realize some of you want to convince him otherwise but he didn't ask about converting he asked about replacing, no? A couple comments about switching to manuals is understandable but calling him flatout dumb for it? C'mon.
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From: Quad Cities, IA
My '85 has autos, my '89 has manuals. I like the auto hubs for the simple fact that if you get hit by surprise bad weather (which is common here in Iowa), you can just stop, throw it in 4x4, and continue on your way.
A few months back, I was driving my '89, and was caught in a really bad storm while way out in the country. In the 45 seconds it took me to stop, get out of the vehicle, lock both hubs in, and re-enter the truck, I got completely drenched. I was a very unhappy camper, mostly due to the fact that half of what I was being hit with was large sized hail.
I say if you're happy with your automatic hubs, and you're willing to pay a little more when you replace them, go for it. It's your truck, do with it as you may.
A few months back, I was driving my '89, and was caught in a really bad storm while way out in the country. In the 45 seconds it took me to stop, get out of the vehicle, lock both hubs in, and re-enter the truck, I got completely drenched. I was a very unhappy camper, mostly due to the fact that half of what I was being hit with was large sized hail.
I say if you're happy with your automatic hubs, and you're willing to pay a little more when you replace them, go for it. It's your truck, do with it as you may.
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Originally Posted by TheRoadVirus
I can't believe half of what is said in this thread.. what a waste of time, guys. Who cares if he wants to keep his auto's it's his choice? I realize some of you want to convince him otherwise but he didn't ask about converting he asked about replacing, no? A couple comments about switching to manuals is understandable but calling him flatout dumb for it? C'mon.
And as for the last story there. The weather in New england is as unpredictable in iowa. The last 2 storms we had here were pretty unforgiving. Didnt expect to have 5 inches if snow when I woke up, no time to shovel had to be to work, Was nice not having to dig out the front wheels, just hopped in, put the t-case in 4HI and off i was
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Next question, I got the new hub today. In the instructions it says its a new bub style identified buy a 3 screw cap, but will service older style hublocks identified by 5 screw cap. Mine is a 5 screw cap.. shouls it still work? It says to obtain the cap too, but i really dont want to have to buy the cap
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Since you are dead set on keeping your auto hubs, all I can say is make sure they are clean and well lubed, and don't plan on any heavy use. They should be OK being used just for traction on slippery roads, but not for heavier use. Ford's own manual for those years states that they are for light duty use, and recommends using the manual hubs for heavy or commercial use (specifically mentions snow plowing).
Some of the guys got a little over enthusiastic piling on about this one, but I agree with their point. When my 95 F250 ate an auto hub several years ago - the truck would have been about 5 years old and around 80k mi - I found out that these hubs were a notorious weak point. I went looking to replace them, and everyone I talked to told me I was nuts to want to put new auto hubs on. I had always thought the lock/unlock method was a little strange, and finding out how many of them failed convinced me to switch to manual.
Some of the guys got a little over enthusiastic piling on about this one, but I agree with their point. When my 95 F250 ate an auto hub several years ago - the truck would have been about 5 years old and around 80k mi - I found out that these hubs were a notorious weak point. I went looking to replace them, and everyone I talked to told me I was nuts to want to put new auto hubs on. I had always thought the lock/unlock method was a little strange, and finding out how many of them failed convinced me to switch to manual.
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ok CHANGED
So, today i returned the Auto hub, cause it would have cost me another 200 to get the cap and some nut that i needed.
I went to Napa and picked up WARN standard locking hubs. I DID NOT buy the conversion kit cause it specified for 3 screw caps only where as I have a 5 screw cap.. From what you guys are saying, i dont need a conversion kit correct?
Now how hard is this job going to be? anything i should know of in advanced?
So, today i returned the Auto hub, cause it would have cost me another 200 to get the cap and some nut that i needed.
I went to Napa and picked up WARN standard locking hubs. I DID NOT buy the conversion kit cause it specified for 3 screw caps only where as I have a 5 screw cap.. From what you guys are saying, i dont need a conversion kit correct?
Now how hard is this job going to be? anything i should know of in advanced?
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Originally Posted by joshdvirnak
I thought everyone made it pretty clear that its about a 15 minute job/30 if you need to convert.
Its cake.
Its cake.
I have never converted one before and i dont know what to expect
Was i right in NOT buying the conversion kit?
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From: The Wilderness
You are 100% correct. You need to be able to get past a snap ring and a lock ring... I think thats about it.
There practically is not a difference for you, since you take your auto out, slide the manual on put the snap ring and lock ring back on and then put the new cap with the **** on.
I know you can do this.
There practically is not a difference for you, since you take your auto out, slide the manual on put the snap ring and lock ring back on and then put the new cap with the **** on.
I know you can do this.