4WD Hub question
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Originally Posted by NeXtras
Its actually pretty useful, if you go form snowy roads to the highway u just take the tranfer out of 4WD and carry on the highway with the hubs locked, when you take an exit and its snowy again you just put the transfer into 4WD again.. nothing you cant do with manuals except you dont have to get out of the truck to lock them the first time.
Actually good example as to why i like autos, when your messing with your truck in the snow and have it in 2wd doin donuts and drifting, when you go into a snow mound and need 4wd, its nice not having to get out, dig out the front whels and locking the hubs. id rather just pull the transfer into 4wd =D so much easier
Actually good example as to why i like autos, when your messing with your truck in the snow and have it in 2wd doin donuts and drifting, when you go into a snow mound and need 4wd, its nice not having to get out, dig out the front whels and locking the hubs. id rather just pull the transfer into 4wd =D so much easier
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Originally Posted by gustav129
What everybody does around here is lock them at the beginning of the winter, and unlock them at spring.
so, called Ford back again, said i have to by the hubs in pairs and it will cost 175 for the set. Not to happy about that, but thats going to be the cheapest way any how cause the mechanic will just buy the parts from ford and charge me more.. this really f'n blows, big time
i swear to god if one more person says switch to manuals.. ugg IM NOT SWITCHING SO GET OVER IT!!
My truck came equiped with autos, therefore thats what will stay on there, so stop sayin manuals, its like debatiung the 300 and the 302.
Any one juat happen to have an auto hub layin around that works and they could sell me?
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Originally Posted by NeXtras
Ok, not bad, but how much work is it?
and y do so many people hate the auto hubs? there very handy when they work, this is the first issue with it ever
and y do so many people hate the auto hubs? there very handy when they work, this is the first issue with it ever
Originally Posted by NeXtras
Ok, so how much is it to switch to manuals PER WHEEL? and how easy/hard is it? cause ive replaced one hub already, came from the junkyard and no problems
Hmmm... $85 for two Warn premium hubs, or $75 for one factory auto. Not to mention, like you said you can't buy a single hub!
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
So which is it, this is the first issue or you've had problems before? To each his own, but several people have given you good advice when they said switch to manuals. The autos WILL fail, notice I said WILL not can. If you're too lazy to get out and lock the hubs in before you go play... well I won't even go there.
Hmmm... $85 for two Warn premium hubs, or $75 for one factory auto. Not to mention, like you said you can't buy a single hub!
Warn hubs
Hmmm... $85 for two Warn premium hubs, or $75 for one factory auto. Not to mention, like you said you can't buy a single hub!
Warn hubs
now what happens when you have been driving in water and snow and such that will seat itself into the **** for the manuals and thge temp drips to 16 degrees farenheight and you need 4x4 to movve throguht the snow and ice. What happens when you cant turn that **** cause its frozen? THATS y i like the idea of auto locking - like everythings else, treat it the right way and it will work fine, every piece of macinery is apt to break at somepoint.
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i would give you my right side one but i think i through it out when i switched. my left side went bad but i kept the auto's incase my warns failed but they haven't yet and i think i threw them out. but ill look tomorrow and see if i still have the right side one. maybe you can use it.
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Originally Posted by NeXtras
now what happens when you have been driving in water and snow and such that will seat itself into the **** for the manuals and thge temp drips to 16 degrees farenheight and you need 4x4 to movve throguht the snow and ice. What happens when you cant turn that **** cause its frozen? THATS y i like the idea of auto locking - like everythings else, treat it the right way and it will work fine, every piece of macinery is apt to break at somepoint.
2. If you're driving through snow and water this time of year, you should have the hubs locked in anyways, so it won't matter if they freeze in that position.
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all a matter of opinion really.
So i figured out what the louder noises were this morning. The Hub tryed to lock and tryed to spin up the front drive shaft when the T-case wasnt engaged in 4wd, so it made some god awful clicking.. Im going to york ford tomorow and buying a pair
So i figured out what the louder noises were this morning. The Hub tryed to lock and tryed to spin up the front drive shaft when the T-case wasnt engaged in 4wd, so it made some god awful clicking.. Im going to york ford tomorow and buying a pair
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Plenty of good advice and all of it learned from personal experience.......It's your truck and do what you want....but if I see a thread in a few months from you saying you want to switch......you won't get help from me...get the autos and swap em out, it should be a pull, plug, and play kinda thing.....It wasn't anything for me to swap from autos to manuals in my FSB...and that was the first time I'd ever done it....and I'm an idiot......
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Trust me i wont want to swap, i like the auto, just needs to work. Ive also got to keep in mind, the truck has 181k miles on it, so these things are bound to happen. "Can't expect the inevitible"
Unfortunetly these things break only when you use them which is also when you need them. The autos work very well provided they are in prime condition. Im simply going to replace the damaged side and keep the other as a spare.
Unfortunetly these things break only when you use them which is also when you need them. The autos work very well provided they are in prime condition. Im simply going to replace the damaged side and keep the other as a spare.
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Originally Posted by NeXtras
completely irelevant to the topic, but anyways...
You basically said "I don't want to get out and dig them out to lock them in the snow."
I replied, "Lock them right before snow flies, and unlock them when snow melts."
Originally Posted by NeXtras
now what happens when you have been driving in water and snow and such that will seat itself into the **** for the manuals and thge temp drips to 16 degrees farenheight and you need 4x4 to movve throguht the snow and ice. What happens when you cant turn that **** cause its frozen? THATS y i like the idea of auto locking - like everythings else, treat it the right way and it will work fine, every piece of macinery is apt to break at somepoint.
Last edited by gustav129; Dec 18, 2007 at 09:06 AM.
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if you can sawp auto's, you can swap in manuals, almost zero extra work involved. I've fishtailed my way thru one winter before in a ranger beczause the auto's failed, never again. A warn premium hub which is all metal, WILL last forever, cost less, and will be no questions asked, work when needed. I also lock mine in come this time of the year and unlock them once the weather gets better. I have never had a problem with them freezing up. as far as that snow bank comment, have you ever tried this? i have never had the auto's engage once i'm already stuck, so you need to plan ahead again anyways.
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Originally Posted by gustav129
It was a direct response to what I quoted you. Therfore it was relevant to the topic. It wasn't something just thrown out there.
You basically said "I don't want to get out and dig them out to lock them in the snow."
I replied, "Lock them right before snow flies, and unlock them when snow melts."
Just to let you know, my "irelevant" answer is the answer to this question aslo.
You basically said "I don't want to get out and dig them out to lock them in the snow."
I replied, "Lock them right before snow flies, and unlock them when snow melts."
Just to let you know, my "irelevant" answer is the answer to this question aslo.
Lets forget that part. Im going to York Ford today to buy the hubs.
I like the autos on this truck and i intend to keep the autos.
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actually, not trying to carry it on but, by keeping them locked will help keep your u-joints moving, if they sit in one spot and only turn on one axis, they can become frozen in the opposite way, so it's actually a good thing. and the hubs will not make your steering tight, the reason this happens is because your transfer case does not slip(like a locked diff) and binds up the drivetrain, so in 2 wheel drive, regardless of hubs locked or not it should not make your steering tight, Unless your u-joints are frozen because your hubs are always unlocked and dont allow the ujoints to turn in all directions.
If the above was a problem, dodge's new trucks wouldn't have a front axle with no disconnects at all. I know this is a fact because I owned an 05 3/4 ton cummins, the front axle and front driveshaft were driven all the time, the only disconnect was the t-case its self.
If the above was a problem, dodge's new trucks wouldn't have a front axle with no disconnects at all. I know this is a fact because I owned an 05 3/4 ton cummins, the front axle and front driveshaft were driven all the time, the only disconnect was the t-case its self.
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The frozen water thing is about the dumbest reason I've ever heard for keeping auto hubs. I have never ever heard of anyone with frozen hubs, ever. For one, the heat from the bearings will prevent any freezing.
Secondly, saying it's too much work to replace the auto hubs with manuals is moronic. It's more work to replace one auto hub than it is to replace them both with manuals.
It's your truck... but I think you're being dumb.
Secondly, saying it's too much work to replace the auto hubs with manuals is moronic. It's more work to replace one auto hub than it is to replace them both with manuals.
It's your truck... but I think you're being dumb.