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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Oh boy, open element.......... I'd be sweatin bullets. I dont wanna wreck your turbo, lol. Maybe I'll look into buyin an AFE system.

Rampage, is that a stage 2 system? Does the AFE need cleaning like the K&N?

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Rampage, is that a stage 2 system? Does the AFE need cleaning like the K&N?

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It's a poorman's version of a Stage II, I pieced it together. If you notice mine doesn't have the intake box aound it. It is an oiled filter, I have a second filter in the shop so when it's time to change, I can clean and re-oil it when time permits. That and having two filters reduces wear and tear on the filters.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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I guess Im buyin an AFE system from BDP. Does the Torque Tube offer anything that you could tell?

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroked162
Oh boy, open element.......... I'd be sweatin bullets. I dont wanna wreck your turbo, lol. Cowboy Steve
oh yeah! definately don't go no filter! i have an idea. challenge your diesel shop naysayer. tell him to provide the AFE and you will bring to the truck and tymar. If his AFE puts down bigger numbers you will buy his AFE. But just remember dyno's aren't perfect. do more than one run on the same say for each filter.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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Steve go to your dyno and run 2 sets of three runs. 3 with tymar and 3 with no filter but the duct work still in place. that will tell you all you need to know.
Absolutely. 10 minutes of dyno testing and you will stop worrying about the 6637.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroked162
I guess Im buyin an AFE system from BDP. Does the Torque Tube offer anything that you could tell?

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The Stage II should come with the Torque Tube if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Gene it would be easier for you to compare the different filters mentioned than waste the rest of your life trying to discredit one!

I will be on the dyno in Oct. If you want filters tested send them to me. I will pay to dyno them. Then for the disbelievers, I WILL SPIN THE ROLLERS WITH NO FILTER!
I'll ship your filter back to you.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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isn't there somebody running dual 6637's? I thought I saw a pic of dual 6637's with the battery relocated.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Absolutely. 10 minutes of dyno testing and you will stop worrying about the 6637.
What do you mean? You think the 6637 flows enough?

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tjbeggs
oh yeah! definately don't go no filter! i have an idea. challenge your diesel shop naysayer. tell him to provide the AFE and you will bring to the truck and tymar. If his AFE puts down bigger numbers you will buy his AFE. But just remember dyno's aren't perfect. do more than one run on the same say for each filter.
Sounds like a great idea Tim. Gotta love where your heads at

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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What do you mean? You think the 6637 flows enough?

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I think it does, but I don't think my testing is going to bear this out the way I am doing it but we will see. Dyno comparisons are where the speculation ends. JMO.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pocket
Gene, the 6637 filter may be "rated" for 425 cfm, but in real world experiences the numbers don't correlate with results.

Here's an example: A few weeks ago I was at the race track, and one of the guys there runs a low 14 second OBS PSD with a Tymar filter, and I believe he also has the D66. During the day he accidently spilled a bunch of water all over the filter, so he took it off to make more runs. His times didn't change. If it was really that restrictive, he would have seen better E/T's at the track with the filter removed.


Also I've had that filter on my truck and made numerous drives to the SC, TX, and LA coastlines (summer time humidity well over 90% all the time) and it has never affected the 6637 filter. Also driving in the rain it never got wet. The only time water can do any damage is if you spill a lot of it directly on the filter. But then again, that would do the same amount of damage to any paper filter.
I've been quietly thinking this myself. My 302 (and later, my 351) had more flow that that, if you consider it had a 600cfm carb. I know, it's not a real comparison, but a filter rated for 425cfm on these trucks just doesn't seem like it would work, yet it does. Quite well. Sure, there have been a few issues, but there have been a lot more with K&Ns, stock, and other filters, yet folks run them without a thought.

Here's another way to think about it: If the 6637 is so "restrictive", based on size alone, the stock paper element must make the truck think it's trying to suck air through a phone book.

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mech2161
Gene it would be easier for you to compare the different filters mentioned than waste the rest of your life trying to discredit one!

I will be on the dyno in Oct. If you want filters tested send them to me. I will pay to dyno them. Then for the disbelievers, I WILL SPIN THE ROLLERS WITH NO FILTER!
I'll ship your filter back to you.
Kevin, that sounds like a perfect opportunity to settle alot of filter debate with HP gain or loss! I applaud your offer!
 
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Good point Izzy!

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroked162
What do you mean? You think the 6637 flows enough?

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That is exactly what I mean. Specifically, you can compare any filter you like against the 6637, and then against no filter at all and the difference will be less than 5 horsepower between any of them. Or you can let Kevin do it since the offer is on the table

I don't know, nor frankly do I care, how all this CFM crap is generated. What I do know is that your turbo can not draw enough air to need more than the 6637 can provide. Like you said earlier, switching to the AFE won't make a dang bit of difference.

Tim. I think that dual 6637 pic was of a Cummins....but it's been a couple of years since I've seen it.
 
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