Cummins does something right
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From: Dover, Florida
I hear ya, Hooker. I love my 7.3 as well, but I (personally) wouldn't rule out one of the new 6.0s as long as it was a manual tranny. My father purchased a new SD with 6.0, automagic tranny, etc. and it does drive very well, and so far (fingers crossed) its gone close to 6 months with no problems -I do like driving it (just doesn't feel like a truck -more 'car-like') but I'd still prefer a manual
tranny.
tranny.
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From: Sacramento
Originally Posted by pstrang
Look at the engine specs. The Cummins do NOT have the same powerband. 'band' stands for width looking at the HP/Torque curves. The Cummins in NOT the same width. The PSD is much, much wider. I prefer a wide powerband....much more flexible and better driveability.
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From: Sacramento
Originally Posted by Frost13
how do you figure that a cummins makes power at 3800 RPM?! the engine is RPM limited at 3300 RPM!
http://www.diesel-central.com/Video/...entcrowder.wmv
As you see this truck go past the camera, it's hitting around 6800rpm.
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Originally Posted by pstrang
Fact: the Dogdes so-called crew cab is actually only a 3/4 bench. Adults rub their knees, I've been in both, the Fords are true full benches in the back. There's no comfort for adults in the back. You need to sit in both...you'll see. Why else would Dodge actually release a new mega cab! A full bench finally.
Look at the engine specs. The Cummins do NOT have the same powerband. 'band' stands for width looking at the HP/Torque curves. The Cummins in NOT the same width. The PSD is much, much wider. I prefer a wide powerband....much more flexible and better driveability.
Look at the engine specs. The Cummins do NOT have the same powerband. 'band' stands for width looking at the HP/Torque curves. The Cummins in NOT the same width. The PSD is much, much wider. I prefer a wide powerband....much more flexible and better driveability.
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From: Sacramento
I'd rather compete with this engine, don't think the mighty Banks can(wants to) do what Scheids can do with diesels.
http://www.scheiddieselmotorsports.c...orts/drag.html
Either way, it would be way Kool to have a Dura', Powerstroke, or Chummins hit 7k! It's all good. I'm an enthusiast, I like all kinds of performance. Take a deep breath and relax, I'm not making a challenge to race, just stating the rpm capability of an old school str8 six.
http://www.scheiddieselmotorsports.c...orts/drag.html
Either way, it would be way Kool to have a Dura', Powerstroke, or Chummins hit 7k! It's all good. I'm an enthusiast, I like all kinds of performance. Take a deep breath and relax, I'm not making a challenge to race, just stating the rpm capability of an old school str8 six.
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oh ya i know to I am no stranger to the scheid website. i think Banks will unlock and show a lot of the power potential of the 6.6 though. this is reguardless of the purpose of which the motor is being built. I think banks is trying to prove what can be done with diesel.
I think the Cummins is still so far ahead in the aftermarket, that all this can be done. I hope banks comes out of this project with some aftermarket products to make the duramax do what it is capable of.
Right know the dmax pullers are having huge fueling issues. we can't just puck the injection on ours like the dodge's can. we really need more fuel. the best we can do right now is run a secondary pump to help get it to the main, and it is still only able to do so much. we need the adapter plate that banks has to allow a different fuel pump for more volume. we can get it plunty of air, and we have some great tuners, we just need fuel to make fire.
i have heard rumors of a dmax drag racer also. but idk if it is reliable source.
I think the Cummins is still so far ahead in the aftermarket, that all this can be done. I hope banks comes out of this project with some aftermarket products to make the duramax do what it is capable of.
Right know the dmax pullers are having huge fueling issues. we can't just puck the injection on ours like the dodge's can. we really need more fuel. the best we can do right now is run a secondary pump to help get it to the main, and it is still only able to do so much. we need the adapter plate that banks has to allow a different fuel pump for more volume. we can get it plunty of air, and we have some great tuners, we just need fuel to make fire.
i have heard rumors of a dmax drag racer also. but idk if it is reliable source.
down that IDEA.
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From: Jackassville
Originally Posted by FERacing66
I dont know if I should belive these people saying "Dodges fall apart, they are crap". How do they know? Maybe they saw a peice of cracked trim on a dodge once in there life so they now assume that they fall apart? Heres my experince with dodge. We have a 1990 Dodge D-250 2WD 4 spd, 318 V8. It is a work truck in every sense of the word, the interior is almost like new, though there is some cracked plastic. All switches, gauges and lights work like new. The truck has over 200,000 miles on it, yet it has great compression, (most cylinders were over 125psi), leaks very little oil, blows a little smoke going down the road (the tree huggers flip me the bird sometimes), and has great power, considering its a small 318. This truck is nothing to get excited about, its plain jane and boring, but it is a truck I have come to respect as it is reliable and durable and gets the job done. Now if I was a close minded idiot I could say dodge quailty is ten times better then Ford quaitly, as I see many 1990 Fords with interiors that are detoriated and look like crap, with engine that run like crap. But I know better, quaitly varys with diffent models and styles. My 66 beats all the modern Fords and Dodges weve had as far as quaitly goes, but that doseant mean Ford is better either.
So to the people saying that dodges trucks fall apart, how do you know? For all the dodge trucks that supposedly "fall apart around the engine", I could show you a Ford and GM that look just as bad if not worse. I really dont see much of a differnce in quailty between the big three as far as modern HD trucks go. I do know that all three have chessy ball joints that wear out in 30,000 miles, and less then desirable 4WD systems.
So to the people saying that dodges trucks fall apart, how do you know? For all the dodge trucks that supposedly "fall apart around the engine", I could show you a Ford and GM that look just as bad if not worse. I really dont see much of a differnce in quailty between the big three as far as modern HD trucks go. I do know that all three have chessy ball joints that wear out in 30,000 miles, and less then desirable 4WD systems.
I see that no one has answered my question about how Dodges supposedly "fall apart around the engine".
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From: Marion, VA
I've seen no evidence that they "fall apart around the engine" either. I do think they are worked harder and treated rougher because they feel more like a truck and can withstand the the abuse more than the others (whether they can or not is another question). The Chevy feels more car like that needs to be treated more gently and the Ford falls in between. In the middle 70s, starting in 1973, trucks rusted down almost in front of your eyes. The GM products were the worst by far, followed by Dodge and then Ford. The few imported trucks rusted away just as quickly.
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musta missed that one. But you quoted it, so there it is.
If someone truly did base the remark on a Dodge truck, I'd say it was a lemon (which happens to everyone, no exceptions) and I'd ignore it. You won the argument.
Dodge Trucks aren't for me, I love my F250 7.3L SD truck way too much. But I would not expect a Dodge to fall apart anymore than any other truck -they all have their weaknesses, and they all have their loyal fans.
If someone truly did base the remark on a Dodge truck, I'd say it was a lemon (which happens to everyone, no exceptions) and I'd ignore it. You won the argument.
Dodge Trucks aren't for me, I love my F250 7.3L SD truck way too much. But I would not expect a Dodge to fall apart anymore than any other truck -they all have their weaknesses, and they all have their loyal fans.