Superchips 6.0 Microtuner Thread
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Originally Posted by webmaster
Macvtt,
Did you get that through us? Let me know and I can give a tracking #.
Did you get that through us? Let me know and I can give a tracking #.
It shipped 2 day on Friday...you should have it today.
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
The stock calibrations are screwy.
Diesels are meant to run CLOSED loop constantly, except in a "failure" situation.
When this happens they drop power like crazy.
A "failure" situation could be triggered by a number of things: a leak to the MAP sensor, excessive coolant temp, slight overboost, etc.....
Stock Lightnings have issues of losing power after doing a burnout in the box.
You'll see many of these guys shut the truck off and restart it at the tree.
Tuning cures this of course, but stock calibrations are just a pain in the butt for reasons like this.
Diesels are meant to run CLOSED loop constantly, except in a "failure" situation.
When this happens they drop power like crazy.
A "failure" situation could be triggered by a number of things: a leak to the MAP sensor, excessive coolant temp, slight overboost, etc.....
Stock Lightnings have issues of losing power after doing a burnout in the box.
You'll see many of these guys shut the truck off and restart it at the tree.
Tuning cures this of course, but stock calibrations are just a pain in the butt for reasons like this.
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Vic I read in a previous post that the micro tuner kept the EGT's in the safe zone. What exactly is a safe EGT for the 6.0? Everything I read is bassed on the 7.3 turbo. Is it the turbo we need to worry about, or the pistons, or a combination of both? Last question in your testing where do you place the pyro probe, and where do you reccomend we place the probe on our trucks for max effectivness. thanks in advance for any answers. Jerry
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Originally Posted by $trokin60
Vic I read in a previous post that the micro tuner kept the EGT's in the safe zone. What exactly is a safe EGT for the 6.0? Everything I read is bassed on the 7.3 turbo. Is it the turbo we need to worry about, or the pistons, or a combination of both? Last question in your testing where do you place the pyro probe, and where do you reccomend we place the probe on our trucks for max effectivness. thanks in advance for any answers. Jerry
EGT should not be above 1400 for very long and under no circumstances should it hit 1600 for more than a few seconds.
The HOTTEST I've seen with the Tow file and Economy file was 1150/1200 respectively....this is at max load, max boost with so much load the truck would no longer accelerate at wide open throttle. This was repeated many times, and often for extended periods of time.
The Performance file would hit 1400 intermittently, but only at VERY high RPM (higher than the 3900 RPM shift point) and only under loads. As soon as it shifts, the EGT drops way down again.
We cruised at 90 on the highway pulling a race trailer with a mustang, fuel and a bunch of tools with EGT's under 800 degrees. This was with the performance file =o)
This doesn't mean you should go tear down sea walls with the performance file or tow a 5th wheel. In fact, I strongly recommend that you do NOT attempt this.
Follow ALL tow limits for each file.
Tow file: Limited only by what Ford recommends stock for max load.
Economy file: up to 8,000 LBS
Performance: up to 6,000 LBS
Gauges are not necessary, but always recommended (even on stock trucks).
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Vic,
A clarifications and a few questions:
The Predator does both. It saves it within and allows you to set it back at anytime and allows you to save it on your computer.
How fast is the download cycle? This sounds interesting. 
I don't know which Predator revision you've seen, but since the 2nd update it does modify the tranny shift points.
Do you do it as two seperate downloads (since the tranny system is a different computer)? Or are you have the shifts modified by changing the torque table? (Hope I'm not digging too deep, I'm a bit twiddler at heart)
How is performing (EGTs) at high altitude?
A clarifications and a few questions:
The Predator can allow you to save your stock file on your hard drive.
The Superchips tuner will save your stock file within and allow you to set it back anytime.
The Superchips tuner will save your stock file within and allow you to set it back anytime.
The Superchips tuner programs considerably faster and requires less key cycles.
The Predator currently does not change shift points and shift pressure.
Do you do it as two seperate downloads (since the tranny system is a different computer)? Or are you have the shifts modified by changing the torque table? (Hope I'm not digging too deep, I'm a bit twiddler at heart)
How is performing (EGTs) at high altitude?
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Originally Posted by webmaster
Vic,
A clarifications and a few questions:
The Predator does both. It saves it within and allows you to set it back at anytime and allows you to save it on your computer.
How fast is the download cycle? This sounds interesting.
I don't know which Predator revision you've seen, but since the 2nd update it does modify the tranny shift points.
Do you do it as two seperate downloads (since the tranny system is a different computer)? Or are you have the shifts modified by changing the torque table? (Hope I'm not digging too deep, I'm a bit twiddler at heart)
How is performing (EGTs) at high altitude?
A clarifications and a few questions:
The Predator does both. It saves it within and allows you to set it back at anytime and allows you to save it on your computer.
How fast is the download cycle? This sounds interesting.
I don't know which Predator revision you've seen, but since the 2nd update it does modify the tranny shift points.
Do you do it as two seperate downloads (since the tranny system is a different computer)? Or are you have the shifts modified by changing the torque table? (Hope I'm not digging too deep, I'm a bit twiddler at heart)
How is performing (EGTs) at high altitude?
High altitude EGT's are also acceptable.
We do use two separate downloads, but they go together and they go quickly. Much less cycling of the key.
The shift tables are changed correctly, through the shift program itself.
The tuner will tell you it is installing file #1 (and show a percentage until done), then does the same with file #2.
Naturally, one file is the engine file and the other is tranny.
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
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The HOTTEST I've seen with the Tow file and Economy file was 1150/1200 respectively....this is at max load, max boost with so much load the truck would no longer accelerate at wide open throttle. This was repeated many times, and often for extended periods of time.
The HOTTEST I've seen with the Tow file and Economy file was 1150/1200 respectively....this is at max load, max boost with so much load the truck would no longer accelerate at wide open throttle. This was repeated many times, and often for extended periods of time.
Curiosity, why no more EGT at this point?
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If I was to add more boost or "change" fuel or other parameters (and that's as far as I will explain for proprietary reasons), the EGT could go higher still.
This test was done at many different loads, on the street and dyno, at many different temps, gear, and throttle positions.
This test was done at many different loads, on the street and dyno, at many different temps, gear, and throttle positions.
