it's available now....Part # 1704.

Ken will have his in hand by Monday or Tuesday.

Hey....remember for a fair comparison at the track.....Engine oil temps must be consistent. If you can't track engine oil temp at least watch your temp gauge on the dash.
There are fuel limits based on engine oil temp, and the trucks make the most power when the oil is warm.

It's a good idea after installing each product to go for a quick spin up the street (adaptive learn), then idle for the last 10 minutes or so of staging so the oil is good and warm.
An ideal situation is at least 3 stock runs and 3 runs with each product on each truck on the same day with the same engine oil temp for all of the above.

Remember...these trucks vary a LOT stock vs stock, by as much as 100 ft lbs.
A fair compare is on the SAME truck, and should be repeated on numerous trucks.

An '03 strategy' 2004 6 liter will very often hose a '04 strategy' 2004 6 liter...stock vs stock.

 

Just a quickie question....

Any of you guys in Florida?
Particularly the Orlando area?

 

Vic:
I am in Port Charlotte FLA, about 3 hours south of Orlando.

 

So, what you're saying is the hotter the truck the better the performance? Is that why you wanted the Predator to be tested first and then the Micro Tuner? I don't imagine there are too many guys with oil temperature gauges so to get real accurate before and after results may be a little suspect. Although I guess it would be pretty close.

 

At what point did I say it mattered which product you test first?

I said to make sure oil temps were CONSISTENT.
If they are consistent, how can they be hotter one way or ther other?

It also isn't necessaily always FASTEST when it's at it's hottest. Every truck has it's happy zone, but it seems that diesels are less prone to heat soak than gasoline engnes. Diesels like to be hot. The key here is to be consistent.
It really doesn't matter which you test first....if the engine oil temp is controlled, it is controlled. This isn't rocket science.
Do it whatever way you like, just make sure the truck and/or oil temp is consistent for all 3.
Hope this clears up any confusion.....

 

Another question:

Are there any here who have 6.0L Powerstroke VANS (E series)?
(In Florida)

 

Hello all,
I am fairly new to this site and have been reading a lot.
This is a great site!

I have an '04 PSD on order due to be picked up at Jeff's in NY
sometime in July...

I'd like to be able to retrieve the computer codes and download
them to make a "history" file for trouble-shooting, if need be
sometime in the future.

I am also nterested in saving the flash that is on the truck
when I get it (to a CD?) in case the dealer puts one on later
that I don't like.

So, my question is, will the Predator do this? I have read what
I can about this device and it looks like a great way to go,
but for the $$, I'd like to be able to save whatever I can get
out of the truck's memory.

Thanks,
PSD-6-.-Oh!

 

Lets clear things up here:
This is not a Diablosport Predator thread; this is a Superchips 1704 thread.
Any questions about the predator should be directed to their thread.

To answer your questions:
Yes, both the Predator and the Superchips 1704 will save the stock flash and allow you to return to stock at anytime.
You MUST return your stock flash befoer every trip to the dealer, or they may erase your tuned flash.
Also, if Ford updates your stock flash, the tuner (ours or theirs) will see the new reflash and save that as your new stock program.

Aside from buying a Superchips or Diablo tuner,
If you would like to save the original flash yourself and be able to flash whatever program you would like in an anytime, you will need a WDS or develop your own flash software that can talk to the PCM.
Most tuning companies have this for their own use and will not release it due to the fact that it is proprietary software.
....Or you can buy the Supechips custom tuning "Advantage" software and make your own programs to load into a custom microtuner. This requires SERIOUS tuning knowledge and should only be done by an experienced tuner.

Your best bet to keep the flash you have is to buy a Superchips 1704 (or whatever product you choose), set it to stock before every trip to the dealer, and instruct your service advisor NOT to reflash your truck.
Usually a reflash is a good thing, because it helps cure stock drivability problems. There have, however been "fixes" that Ford has flashed in that weren't as good as the original program.

 

The Predator PC interface will allow the owner to download the Stock Tune to the hard drive and subsiquently to a CD.

Just for your information

 

That's an exellent feature...
The Superchips Custom Tuning software will do the same.

Just a thought, while this thread is still friendly......
Let's kep it that way.
If you are a fan of Diablo, a distributor of Diablo, etc...
There is a thread for that.

Both products have their plusses.
The Predator tuner came out first....
The Superchips tune makes more power.
The Predator can allow you to save your stock file on your hard drive.
The Superchips tuner will save your stock file within and allow you to set it back anytime.
The Superchips tuner programs considerably faster and requires less key cycles.
The Diablo tuner has more of a flashy look (looks pretty cool).
The Superchips tuner changes shift points and pressure.
The Predator currently does not change shift points and shift pressure.
Both can check and clear trouble codes....

We could go on forever comparing....but that's up to you guys.

This thread is primariily for bulletins involving the SUPERCHIPS 6.0L product and questions involving the same product. Comparison is ok, but lets keep it friendly and fair. I did the tuning, and this thread makes me more accessible to the consumer and their point of view.
Lets keep that in mind and all be friends here, mmmmmkayyy?

Anyone have any questions about the SUPERCHIPS 1704 ? =o)

 

IT IS freindly :-)
And there are no distributors that I've seen posting...

We just be simple users that want the escalations to continue !
it benefits us all !

and know that it takes time to respond to some of the request !
even tho we're in the McDonald's give it to me NOW era :-)

Thanks for the info Vic... you'll sell a bunch !

 

Now, Vic. When you can add to that "The Superchips tuner works on E series Econoline PSD 6.0" You will have my full attention.

Regards,

Morris

 

Vic,
If I'm looking at the same thing you're talking about here mine has this on it...
TB55
DPU-252A
EEOFA 3K211
this is on a small sticker on the front, to see anything more I'd have to start taking the large plastic protective cover off, the one that also covers the battery. I don't see any DAXanything.
Jovis

 

Workin on it....

 

how does the edge/attitude rate against the preditor or the superchips