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Old Feb 11, 2026 | 09:14 PM
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Is the EGR by chance stuck open?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2026 | 09:40 PM
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Which code for EGR? It could be a wiring issue that could potentially affect both tps and EGR. Have you gone through all grounds and cleaned them? The one picture you have of the motor, your alternator wire has a blue butt connector on it. Inspect and all of those. They aren’t the best for connections and prone to failing.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
Which code for EGR? It could be a wiring issue that could potentially affect both tps and EGR. Have you gone through all grounds and cleaned them? The one picture you have of the motor, your alternator wire has a blue butt connector on it. Inspect and all of those. They aren’t the best for connections and prone to failing.
I believe it was code 23 for the tps and 33 for the egr. I've checked all the ones I've seen. Cleaned the one behind the upper intake elbow when I had it off last summer, the main ground is only a couple years old. I've been thinking I could probably add another ground somewhere just to see if thatd help anything. Yeah I know I really should redo that properly, its a 3g swap cause I got 4 bad 2gs from oreillys. Haven't had any issues with it since the swap far as I know.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 06:02 AM
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Recap of where we are, you have the truck running, but it’s only with the spout out or do you have it running with the spout in again? Have you tested the TPS? Verify the EGR is closed at least and not stuck open. You can look with it still on and see if it moves when vacuum is applied and removed.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
Recap of where we are, you have the truck running, but it’s only with the spout out or do you have it running with the spout in again? Have you tested the TPS? Verify the EGR is closed at least and not stuck open. You can look with it still on and see if it moves when vacuum is applied and removed.
Correct it runs only with the spout disconnected. I'll check the tps later if I have time, it is new ish however new part quality is eh at best. I'll do some looking into verifying the egr as well
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 11:26 AM
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Do you have a working pip signal?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
Do you have a working pip signal?
Far as I know. I checked codes for key off ignition on, while running, and continuous memory and saw nothing on it. Plus the tests I ran to check it a while ago.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 11:35 AM
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I would check it coming out of the Tfi module. You either have a bad pip, Tfi, broken wire or computer.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
I would check it coming out of the Tfi module. You either have a bad pip, Tfi, broken wire or computer.
Far as I remember checking there wasnt anything wrong with the tfi either when I ran all the tests a while ago. I kinda doubt it but I'm kinda wonderin if the egr bein stuck to some capacity is making the computer have a stroke trying to adjust for it while its connected
 
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It won’t cause the issue of the vehicle only running with the spout removed. It would effect idle, but that’s all.

Computer, pip/distro, Tfi or wiring in that system.
 

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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
It won’t cause the issue of the vehicle only running with the spout removed. It would effect idle, but that’s all.

Computer, pip/distro, Tfi or wiring in that system.
I guess in this case I can sometimes get it to start with the spout plugged in, but it won't stay running. I tried last night with the code reader to see if itd pull anything. Started, idled like crap for a few seconds then went normal for about 5-10 then shut off. In the past it would idle like **** and then just die, however if I hit the gas it wouldnt die, and would sound relatively normal, while I had the rpms up. I probably should have specified that whole mess the first time but my ******* didnt think about it bein relevant for some reason
 
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With Rpm’s up and misfiring or is it smooth? If it’s smooth, I would start verifying the EGR isn’t the problem. Quick way to know… take a coke can and cut a section bigger than the EGR port, loosen the EGR bolts and slip it between the EGR and intake, tighten bolts. It don’t matter which side of the gasket, just has to block any chance the EGR is stuck open and allowing air.

check fuel pressure if EGR doesn’t change anything.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
With Rpm’s up and misfiring or is it smooth? If it’s smooth, I would start verifying the EGR isn’t the problem. Quick way to know… take a coke can and cut a section bigger than the EGR port, loosen the EGR bolts and slip it between the EGR and intake, tighten bolts. It don’t matter which side of the gasket, just has to block any chance the EGR is stuck open and allowing air.

check fuel pressure if EGR doesn’t change anything.
I don't remember exactly. I wanna say it wasnt perfect but it was much better than idle was. I could probably test it at some point. Makes me wish I could send videos.

I'll hang onto my can from lunch tomorrow and use it Saturday barring the supposed rain we may get. I would assume if it does something its stuck open and if it does nothing its closed?
 
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If it gets better, valve stuck open. If no change, not the cause of the problem.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2026 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 90project5.0
If it gets better, valve stuck open. If no change, not the cause of the problem.
Alrighty. I'll get back when I can get that tested. Thank you for all the help you've been. Honestly if I had a way to repay you I would cause advice and suggestions go a long way.
 
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