Clearly, this guy was in a neighborhood where he was the only person with a torch.

 

Chinese BBQ pork for the NFL game. Making tacos with it. It's not bad wrapped in a tortilla.

 

Weird but not against the law to have map gas , I might be the only one in my hood to carry one , sure beats welding copper with a lighter .
pork tacos sounds really good Rob

 

When you are in a fire zone, that's like a smoking gun. He was in a residential area where everyone who lived there knows each other. They didn't know him.

 

Got the truck back today, works fine so far, but I only drove it a tenth of a mile, if that. With my roommate's help, we got the tires put in the back seat. I'll go to America's Tire tomorrow after church and get them installed.

Jim

 

You know, if the neighborhood around you is going up in flames, wandering around with any incendiary device might at least be considered suspect.

 

To answer both comments, I totally get that , but still not illegal , to have in his possession, he could have been a plumber riding to work , I know far fetched opinion but so is throwing out he’s out starting fires with a map gas cylinder, without physically seeing him lite something up in flames, even though I’ve been seeing videos on people starting them in random areas , those piros need to be held accountable, without proof the map gas guy has a couple of people on assault charges , so be careful who you toss to the ground without proof in a court of law .
lots of talking about smart city’s , Napa , Malibu, Santa Barbra , Lake Tahoe, Lahaina, and much more in the way of agenda 21 aka green new deal , Paradise was not coastal but in a area that was planned to move people out , not sure what to think or how to prevent or prepare, all I can do is have my trust papers in order with extra copy’s in the kids safes .
have a great day FTE friends.

 

The first responding officer would at least be smart enough to notify a supervisor.


An experienced responding officer would seek specific articulable facts. All evidence is evidence, whether it points to a crime or exonerates the person detained. A supervisor would not allow a detained person to be transported to the police station without reason to believe that a crime was committed, and the detained person may be associated to the incident.



Not far fetched that a plumber could be enroute to a job. He would have supporting circumstantial property. His plumber union card, wrenches, a plumbing company who could verify, the address and name of who he is working for, and maybe even flux and solder.


Or his hands and clothes could have soot, burn marks, ashes....... Maybe his phone may contain searches for "how to light an arson fire with a torch".

 

Exactly Rob. I dont buy that BS story

 

When they are holding me without bail, because of size 14 Bruno Magli boots that I don't own, and bloody gloves that don't fit, I want you at my defense table. I like how your mind works. Open minded. Willing to explore all probability. Able to see that a coin doesn't have 2 sides. People don't see the edge of the coin, and that it goes 360° around.



Truth is the shattered mirror strownIn myriad bits; while each believeshis little bit the whole to own.
Richard Francis Burton, Kasidah of Haji Abdu El-Yezdi





Actually, we don't know the story. All that we know is that a fire is burning, and this guy had a torch. He could be guilty. Or completely innocent. That's why I like to wait until more facts come to light.


I would love it if they swabbed his hands and found unique forensic identifiers. Or they found his footprints in the fire zone, and his shoes have mud and dirt from the fire zone. Even better if he confessed.


For now, we have about a half a minute of some neighbors getting their hands on him. Which I also like. Just a personal opinion. I don't like it when people stand around, do nothing, or video record with a cell phone. At the very least, the person with a phone could call for help.

 

And now that I think about it, one of those neighbors had zip ties. They jumped the guy and zip tied him. How do we know if that neighbor wasn't up to something nefarious. Why was he walking around with cable wraps? Is he a person who commits forcible sodomy?

 

C`mon I have zips in my garage and even my house. Not like he ran to the store

 

One of the news channels had a clip of the burned out Bank of America on Sunset Boulevard. I used to go to that branch. I dated a loan officer there. Which did nothing to get me a 0% percent loan with forgivable deferred repayment.



There was a citizen on the street interview. Great 5 second clip. "All my money is is there. My life savings. What am I going to do?". Journalism and Sensationalism at it's finest. Nobody knows that banks don't actually work that way?


I enjoy the news. It entertains me. But I don't believe everything that is reported. Same way I feel about politicians, comedians, and magicians. I enjoy the show, but don't believe it. I once saw Penn shoot Teller, and Teller caught the bullet with his teeth. That's why I'm so torn up that Kid Rick supports Trump, and Eminem is a Democrat.




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How often are they in your pocket, ready to chase someone down, and tie them up?


I own a torch. It's never in my hands as I am riding my bike. I would at least have had it in a backpack. That way nobody sees it. It would have been my concealed carry torch.

 

Make sure you have a concealed carry torch permit before you do.
Anyway, whether this guy is guilty or innocent, riding around on a bike carrying a torch was not his brightest move.

Jim