I realize that not having some information on the cluster is not the end of the world. However, I have owned vehicles that did display the time and temperature on the cluster and found that information useful while driving. My 23 Lariat ONLY gives time and temperature on the middle screen. I have two issues here. First, in very heavy traffic situations, I don't want to avert my attention from the road long enough to scan the middle screen for the information. Second, I usually drive with the middle screen turned off (thank you Ford for finally giving us a button to turn this @#$#$% screen off) as the brightness of this screen is distracting while driving. Hence, I could really find the time and temperature useful if they were displayed on the cluster screen.
As stated above, there is plenty of real estate on the cluster screen to add time and temperature but the wonderful geniuses who designed the middle screen assume we just sit there and stare at the huge middle screen all of the time while we are driving instead of looking at the road and our rear-view mirrors for traffic. I know I am old and have this idiotic idea that I am supposed to be driving the vehicle and watching out for traffic, road conditions, and hazards instead of playing with my @#$@#$@#$ cell phone.

 

if traffic is so heavy that you can’t look down why is the temperature an immediate priority to you?

you can wait a second (or a minute) until traffic isn’t as crazy to look at the center screen? I’ve never found it to be as big of an ordeal as you’re making it out to be they’re both right at the top of the center screen lol.

also I think the HUD on my truck displays those things too so you don’t even have to take your eyes off the windshield anymore if you have that option.

There are lots of legitimate things to bitch about, don’t get me wrong, but you’re being dramatic here.

 

Dramatic, Yes. I have been riding motorcycles since the early 70's and learned that I have to focus on the road ahead (and behind) to try to stay out of trouble. While on two wheels, I rarely look at instrumentation. As stated, I have found that when traveling, knowing the time is good as I use that and my speed to determine when I am close to some mark that I am looking for. I usually can tell what direction I am headed in so I don't really need a compass, but I used to fly and found that information was pretty critical.
I can understand that now everyone relies on their waze app on their cellphone to nanny them to their destination (and it works well). I am old and old fashioned and like to use my feeble brain a little.
My rant (dramatic) was about the mindless engineers who design this stuff and make it less useful instead of more useful. There is apparently no one in charge to check that the new design is better before it gets signed off on. Ford has become too much like Apple and they make changes for the sake of change even if it is way more complicated to do something instead of making things better.

 

There is so much wasted screen real estate on the IPC, the temperature is omitted, but they were sure to display current song title, vehicle pitch/roll angles, and graphics

 

While we complain about the poorly configured IPC, don't leave off the rpm display on the tach. The raptor gives the digital rpm number in the center of the tach. Why does the $$$$ super duty not display that same number
Why does it matter? If I had been playing with swapping tires, I would like to know how the actual tire diameter (running) affected the rpm in a certain gear so I could accurately compare. The existing display is worthless for that.

 

what tire size did your truck come with and what are you going with? Are you facing a real issue or just thinking of make believe issues?

Also you can figure out tire size impact on rpm without the dash. But I also know I’ve never needed to do that going from stock tires to 35s and 37s either.

You can calculate roughly how much impact tire changes have if you feel like you might need to swap gears afterward or something? Get the Speedo corrected and you’re good but the dashboard isn’t holding you back from solving this one.

plenty of simple ways to figure out what gear ratio you’d need to swap to in order to figure out how to keep a certain final ratio after a tire change.

 

You are correct on all counts. My 23 came with R275/65-20 tires on the stock 8" rims. When I wear these out, I plan to change to 35's. This will not happen for a while, but I will be able to determine the change in rpm at cruising speeds with the tire data given in the charts by the manufacturers.
While it will not make a lot of difference when I change tire sizes, my OCD wants to be able to determine precisely what changes will happen. Being a mechanical engineer, I like to develop tables (excel) for data collection and analysis. Sorry, it is what I have done for over 40 years. Accurate data collection is necessary for proper design analysis.

 

I hear you but going from 34.1” to roughly 34.5” (depending on which tire you choose) will produce no discernible gearing difference comparing a before/after.

the biggest difference you’ll run into here is rolling resistance and the added weight slowing you down some and robbing fuel mileage. But you won’t be anywhere near having a gearing issue.

also….if you’re a numbers nerd go get yourself a banks or edge monitor that will give you a much wider set of data and they’re great to have for those of us who like watching what’s going on.

The dashboard of any truck of any year doesn’t provide nearly as much as these monitors can

 

Correct, but old school me when I think of dashboard…I think of the whole dash board not the “instrument cluster”. See the difference? Haha

 

Max if you haven’t gotten this resolved. With Forscan go into the IPC menu and enable the Navigation/Compass option and it will show up for you.

 

I dropped off my '23 at the dealer this morning in AL for the 24-2009 TSB. Wondering if this software update will resolve this issue as well.

 

So...I picked up my truck this morning from the dealer and they performed all of the applicable software updates as well as checking for additional updates after the fact, of which there were none...and low and behold not a single issue related to the TSB or the passenger air bag sensor issue was resolved...@ford motor company

 

Originally Posted by PatrickStapler
I dropped off my '23 at the dealer this morning in AL for the 24-2009 TSB. Wondering if this software update will resolve this issue as well.

So...I picked up my truck this morning from the dealer and they performed all of the applicable software updates as well as checking for additional updates after the fact, of which there were none...and low and behold not a single issue related to the TSB or the passenger air bag sensor issue was resolved...

 

I've got a 2023 F-350 Lariat and am still looking for a solution to the lack of a compass on the instrument panel. I've received several over the air updates in the year that I've owned the vehicle but nothing that has added a compass. Is there a solution at this time?

 

Mine showed up from an OTA update back in July. I have not had/needed the dash recall yet either, not sure if that affects your situation or not, but I posted about the update when it came through.

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