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Laughing Gas
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Re assembly finally started
Update….
Last week was very busy between all of the good advice from the FTE Forums. I picked up (all from Ford and Riffraff Diesel);
Work cleaning the engine and assembly started and hopefully completed today.
Hopefully it will be completed by this week. I only hope upon completion everything works as expected.
Last week was very busy between all of the good advice from the FTE Forums. I picked up (all from Ford and Riffraff Diesel);
- Body mount bushings
- Bellowed Stainless Up-pipe Kit
- Water pump OEM
- Fuel sending unit
- Dip stick repair mod
- Thermostat housing -Motorcraft RH63
- Thermostat - Motorcraft RT1201
- Transmission mount
- Power steering hydraulic lines
- High Pressure Hose
- Radiator hoses
- Cold Air Silicone Boots
- Oil Cooler Seal Kit
- High pressure injection pump- HPOP
- Oil Cooler
- Fuel tank fill hose
- Oil pan sealant Motorcraft TA-31
- Diesel engine oil
- Oil filter FL-1995A
- HPOP Line - Driver Side Head 99-03.
- HPOP Line - Passenger Side Head 99.5-03.
Work cleaning the engine and assembly started and hopefully completed today.
Hopefully it will be completed by this week. I only hope upon completion everything works as expected.
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I am curious as to what happened regarding the oil cooler. The steps of progression were as follows based on my understanding.
1. You wanted to replace the oil cooler seals.
2. Shop advised against replacing the seals because it hasn't leaked and your oil pressure has always been "healthy".
3. You purchased oil cooler seals and an entire oil cooler to be installed.
Didn't you originally take the Excursion in for oil leaks? Was the OEM oil cooler damaged?
Please know if I were standing at the shop talking to you about your Excursion, I would ask the same questions. Anything I post on the FTE, I am willing to say in person.
1. You wanted to replace the oil cooler seals.
2. Shop advised against replacing the seals because it hasn't leaked and your oil pressure has always been "healthy".
3. You purchased oil cooler seals and an entire oil cooler to be installed.
Didn't you originally take the Excursion in for oil leaks? Was the OEM oil cooler damaged?
Please know if I were standing at the shop talking to you about your Excursion, I would ask the same questions. Anything I post on the FTE, I am willing to say in person.
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Laughing Gas
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Laughing Gas
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From: SoCal
I am curious as to what happened regarding the oil cooler. The steps of progression were as follows based on my understanding.
1. You wanted to replace the oil cooler seals.
2. Shop advised against replacing the seals because it hasn't leaked and your oil pressure has always been "healthy".
3. You purchased oil cooler seals and an entire oil cooler to be installed.
Didn't you originally take the Excursion in for oil leaks? Was the OEM oil cooler damaged?
Please know if I were standing at the shop talking to you about your Excursion, I would ask the same questions. Anything I post on the FTE, I am willing to say in person.
1. You wanted to replace the oil cooler seals.
2. Shop advised against replacing the seals because it hasn't leaked and your oil pressure has always been "healthy".
3. You purchased oil cooler seals and an entire oil cooler to be installed.
Didn't you originally take the Excursion in for oil leaks? Was the OEM oil cooler damaged?
Please know if I were standing at the shop talking to you about your Excursion, I would ask the same questions. Anything I post on the FTE, I am willing to say in person.
As I have been going through this exercise, considering the information shared by members and other research, I figured it is best to replace as many things as possible considering their level of access with the engine in. The oil cooler is one of those components. The original cooler is not leaking, neither are the high pressure oil lines, the water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing, etc. access to these and other components are far easier to access now than later reducing installation time enough to justify the cost.
Do you disagree with my logic or do you have any additional thoughts?
Thank you…
Cargo Master
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From: Rock Hill, SC
To answer your questions #1&2, yes the oil leak was bad and all of the sudden. I never noticed any leaks before and all of the sudden one day there was a god sized puddle in my driveway.
As I have been going through this exercise, considering the information shared by members and other research, I figured it is best to replace as many things as possible considering their level of access with the engine in. The oil cooler is one of those components. The original cooler is not leaking, neither are the high pressure oil lines, the water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing, etc. access to these and other components are far easier to access now than later reducing installation time enough to justify the cost.
Do you disagree with my logic or do you have any additional thoughts?
Thank you…
As I have been going through this exercise, considering the information shared by members and other research, I figured it is best to replace as many things as possible considering their level of access with the engine in. The oil cooler is one of those components. The original cooler is not leaking, neither are the high pressure oil lines, the water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing, etc. access to these and other components are far easier to access now than later reducing installation time enough to justify the cost.
Do you disagree with my logic or do you have any additional thoughts?
Thank you…
Not taking any sides, but if it were me, and I had the engine out, and the body off, I would be doing the same thing, replacing as much as possible while parts are still avail, but that's me, and I see rational in that, others may not.
Laughing Gas
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From: CSRA, SC
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Laughing Gas
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From: SoCal
My truck is back and runs great!
After a week and a half, and 250 miles no issues.
I noticed the steering feels slightly stiffer.
of course there was a bit of cleaning to be done from the work. Every function and accessory work as expected. Sure I took advantage of the opportunity to replace anything that would be expensive to replace w/ the engine in.
here”s the final list of parts replaced. The only thing left is the drivers side battery cover (part of the air intake) got lost. A new/used part is being sourced. I’m very satisfied and happy with the end result!!!
Most of the part numbers and prices are listed to hopefully help others considering a service like this. Were all the parts necessary, no but I intend to drive this truck another 15-20 years.
Thanks to those who offered constructive information.
After a week and a half, and 250 miles no issues.
I noticed the steering feels slightly stiffer.
of course there was a bit of cleaning to be done from the work. Every function and accessory work as expected. Sure I took advantage of the opportunity to replace anything that would be expensive to replace w/ the engine in.
here”s the final list of parts replaced. The only thing left is the drivers side battery cover (part of the air intake) got lost. A new/used part is being sourced. I’m very satisfied and happy with the end result!!!
- Body mount bushings
- S&B Filters ($899) Riff-Raff Diesel
- Bellowed Stainless Up-pipe Kit
- 99.5-03 ($399.99) Riff-Raff Diesel
- Water pump OEM
- F81Z-8501-FA (Villa Ford F81Z 8501 A)
- (RDP-8501 Manufacturer: Navistar from Riff-Raff ($144.88)
- Fuel sending unit (in tank) ($698.00)
- (YC3Z 9275AA)
- Dip stick repair mod ($320) Strictly Diesel (Amazon)
- Thermostat housing -Motorcraft RH63 ($25.10)
- Thermostat - Motorcraft RT1201 ($30.37)
- Transmission mount
- F81Z 6068 AA ($48.88) w/o dampener
- YC3Z 4A263 DA dampener UNAVAILABLE
- Power steering hydraulic lines -
- 3C3Z 3A714 CA ($71.76) - Pressure Tube (reservoir to hydra-boost)
- YC3Z 3A713 CB ($71.07) - Reservoir Hose
- 1C3Z 3A717 AA ($56.58) Power Steering Pressure Hose
- Radiator hoses
- Upper Hose (XC3Z-8260-DA) $26.04
- Radiator Coolant Hose (F81Z-8260-CA) $25.08
- Cold Air Silicone Boots
- 6C3Z6C640B - Connection - Air $84.83
- 1C3Z6C640LA - Connection - Air $48.00
- YC3Z6C640PA - Connection - Air $40.00
- 6C3Z6C640B - Connection - Air $84.83 (Villa Ford Will-Call)
- Oil Cooler - 1C3Z6A642AA $248.00
- Oil Cooler Seal Kit $81.61
- F7TZ-6A636-AAA - Adapter Gasket $28.29 (1 ea)
- F4TZ-6A636-A - Adapter Gasket $21.38 (1 ea)
- 1C3Z-6K649-BA - Engine Oil Cooler Gasket $8.98 (2 ea)
- 1C3Z-6C610-BA - Engine Oil Cooler O-Ring $4.06 (2 ea)
- High pressure injection pump- HPOP
- Ford (F81Z-9A543-CRM) - ($782.59 + $250 core)
- HPOP Line - YC3Z 9J323 E - Driver Side Head 99-03. Manuf International
- HPOP Line - YC3Z 9J323 F - Passenger Side Head 99.5-03.
- Oil pan sealant Motorcraft TA-31 (24 hour cure time) Qty-2
- Fuel tank fill hose - NAPA NBH 1030 $25.99
- Diesel engine oil
- Oil filter FL-1995A
- Air filter
- Motor mounts
- F81Z 6038-CA (left)
- F81Z 6038-CB (right)
- Main bearing rear seal
- Front Swaybar bushings
- YC3Z-5484-AA
- Rear break line
- Negative batt cables, chassis to engine block (qty 2)
- Note: “Positive battery to starter is 2/0”
- A/C mount bracket
- (F8TZ 19D 624AA) UNAVAILABLE
- Alternator bracket
- (F81Z 10A 313AA) UNAVAILABLE
- Front wheel mudguard (YC3Z 16A550DA) UNAVAILABLE
- Windshield replacement (the day I picked up the truck, a rock hit the windshield)
- Front wheel alignment check and thrust angle checked
- Lift gate lock assy 5C7Z-7843170-C
- (Lift gate lock Assyrian was unrelated to any of the above but needed to be done.
Most of the part numbers and prices are listed to hopefully help others considering a service like this. Were all the parts necessary, no but I intend to drive this truck another 15-20 years.
Thanks to those who offered constructive information.
Butt-Head
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From: Reed Point, MT
Most of the part numbers and prices are listed to hopefully help others considering a service like this.
We can find part numbers and prices but what did they charge for labor? THAT'S what most of us are wondering as a lot of us would never get "service(d)" like this.
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Laughing Gas
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Thank you. Yes it was costly and based on the ~250 miles so far, she drives like a dream, smooth, quiet, and straight. I’m hoping the next few hundred thousand miles will be somewhat trouble free (fingers crossed). From this point forward all improvements are elective, cosmetic in nature.
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