Today I delivered new silicone bodycount bushings, a new water pump, and bellowed up pipes to the shop. With the oil pan is off, Iwas able to see some of her innards. The technician pointed out that sometime ago the pistons, rods, and possibly the crank was replaced with performance parts. This explains why the rear main was leaking along with a few other leaks like a hose seal on the HPOP, and maybe another somewhere else. Tomorrow I deliver a new fuel sending unit and a new dip stick adapter that should serve better than the OEM.

Can anyone tell me or identify what type of "performance" parts the rods/pistons and possibly the crank are based on the pictures? The odometer said 158,500 when I bought it 3 years ago Dec 20. Now it says 193,500.

 

Well it has rod bolts instead of studs. Bolts indicated the less desirable powdered metal rods (like mine). I’m guessing they are wrong and these are stock parts.

Never been in mine that deep though so can’t tell you for sure. I’ll let the others confirm.

 

Nothing "performance" in that bottom end. It's all factory which is why the rear main likely IS NOT leaking.

I'm wondering how they explained the "performance" crank, rods, and pistons as the reason the high pressure oil line was leaking.

I really need to quit reading this thread as it makes me want to beat my head against a concrete floor. "This is getting expensive" but you allow this to take place and go along with it.....and ignore input from those of us who have been into these A LOT. I could compare it to a particular political party operation but it would get me in trouble.

 

Oh it will be, after they’re done with it.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

Thank you to the gentlemen who offered sound information.
This will be my last post in this thread because of the rather distasteful posts from a few spoiled seeds. To those, I sincerely hope you find peace.

 

You ignore a mammoth amount of knowledge and experience here and place your trust in schmos that say that bottom end is performance parts. That caused a rear main oil leak.

On the plus side you are paying for someone else's kid to go to college.

Good luck, God speed.

 

Sir, I really am doing my best to bite my tongue and only offer constructive information. It is very difficult to do while watching them say things that an overwhelming amount of knowledgeable folks find incorrect.

I do understand your frustration with our comments and am sorry. As harsh as it may be, we truly are trying to help you get the best solution for your issues.

Please at least come back and share the final conclusion to this adventure. We wish you luck.

 

Distasteful posts? If you feel you have been wronged by us (not the shop) then you are welcome to report any of the posts that you feel have been distasteful or disrespectful. Not only is it your prerogative, but it is your responsibility so that future posts of that nature do not follow.

As for the "performance" parts the shop has once again bamboozled you on advice and financial loss on your part... A simple Google image search with key words like "7.3L PSD PMR vs Forged" will net the following results.

Link: Google image search results for 7.3L PSD PMR vs Forged.

Just one image taken from the search results gives you/us the image below.


None of these "the pistons, rods, and possibly the crank" are "performance parts" and were OEM parts based on the year of manufacture of the truck and/or engine. If one was to be preferred over the other, then the ~2000 manufacturer year is the preferred and forged rod set. You do NOT have this set as you can clearly see from your images while comparing them to the image I posted or similar images you found in the Google Image search link.

Lastly...

When you post in places like this, you open yourself to scrutiny, criticism (positive or negative), opinions, advice and a whole host of other things. We are much more precise with technical information than other social media platforms like FaceBook, Instagram and Elon Twitter. This is why we have repeatedly said things like "get the truck out of there" or "do not pay for a high pressure fuel pump" or "seek legal advice now..." You could have found all of the answers to your questions by searching the FTE or even just Google. You could have done all of the research quite easily with search terms like "does the 7.3L PSD have a high pressure fuel pump". The answer is no, no it does not. It never has and it never will...

You are being robbed and you either know it and choose to ignore it or you don't know it despite what has been written to you repeatedly. Just because the FTE community disagrees with you does not mean their comments or opinions are distasteful. Again, if you or anyone else feels they are, report the post and state the reason for reporting it as "distasteful" or "pissed you off" or whatever you like.

You tend not to answer the questions addressed to you to address to the shop, so perhaps your lack of response and our concern is considered distasteful for us... I stand by my comment about the shop having practices that should be considered criminal or negligent at best. If you were my friend, I would not let this happen to you and it is shameful they are treating you this way. What is more frightening is how many other people are they doing this to and replacing their "blinker fluid" or "muffler bearings"?

We wish you the best of luck and if you still plan to not post here any longer, you can without a doubt and 100% find your answers via a Google search. As David said, God speed...

 

Fantastic and very tactful response, Sous.


I zoomed-in on every picture posted to see if there were any hints of where the shop is or a name. I only came up with a blurry sweatshirt logo and a partially-gone street number above a seemingly no longer used garage door.

It is California though. People there are so used to being ...er......you know, the thing....... they accept it. Add in the fact that there is no punishment for blatant criminal activity and the corrupt system lends itself to perpetuation. This is robbery, no doubt. The legal system will find that the customer (hereby referred to as "the mark") was not forced or coerced against his will to subject himself to this egregious loss of funds. "The mark" will have no recourse other than not returning to the "repair facility" on a later date when it is found that the vehicle in question now has squeaks, rattles, and possibly a myriad of warning lights illuminated in the instrument cluster because of the drastic measures taken by said "repair facility" to access an oil leak on top of the engine.

My money says it finds its way back to this same joint for further repairs though......and I guarantee that there will be no warranty or "goodwill" action on any of these "repairs" that didn't need to be done.

Next thread title:

"This is getting more expensive"

 

I must also admit that I can see this shop buying tools on this guy's dime too. Seeing pictures of the shop in such disarray and clutter and then seeing a BRAND NEW engine rotisserie with no grease on it, brand new bolts, and no witness marks on the slotted holes.......Nice shop tool to have and not have to pay for!

I bet they get a proper rear main seal installer too without owing money for it later on.

 

For the past hour, I have been doing the same thing... I was even going as far as to use Photoshop in order to sharpen the images after zooming in. I looked at a certification tag on one of the lifts. The logo on the dark gray T-shirt and even cropped out the employees face and performed a Google Image search of his face. Because it is a side profile and blurry, the results were not good.

Rainmaker1 has his license plate posted, but he could have traveled a bit to go to the "5 star shop on Yelp and AAA" and as I understand it, SoCal is a very populated area.

I truly hope the shop is able to hand him a well running and leak free Excursion.

 

OMG.

Ya gots a couple leaks here an dere.

Whatca think Jeb?

Duh… full body off resto, and we’ll change an o-ring while we’re in there.

Kidding aside.

Sir… I feel so bad for you. This is a twofold statement.

First that you are going through this and it’s gonna cost you dearly.

Secondly, that you feel insulted by the matter of fact knowledge of the people offering sound advice that you created this thread to receive.

You have disregarded a cumulative of( I dare say ) 100’s of Years of knowledge of the 7.3 here giving their advice.

 

offended people should re use the a/c dryer and office tube that I didn’t see on the materials list. Although the first draft for my initial post was pretty offensive lol

Now if an a/c vacuum/recharge is 350 at Firestone because “it’s a big truck” what they said to my face nice try lol

180 at the Ford dealer (1hr at 150 30 materials)

how much do you have to make it rain at your current shop ?

Really should study the info listed and go head to head with the owner of the shop at this point//last resort show him certain posts in thread. The most “offensive “ ones actually would damage the ships reputation more than yours if properly dispersed. It’s what I had to do a family member paid a highly recommended marina for someone to goop RTV on top of an o ring for the high pressure fuel pump housing when installing a new part. 30 mins underway on the boat is magically reason not getting fuel…..after being yelled at by the mechanic your supposed to do it that way w rtv plus an o ring….let’s just say some of the owners bolts started getting torqued pretty tight they gave me a warranty part than did it my self. Of course the inside of the housing was filled with goop as well it’s how your “supposed to do it”

 

If you would please post 1 more time with the final bill showing all the parts and labor of this fiasco. I'm sure others besides me are curious as what the final bill will be.

I'm very sorry you're having to go thru this.