Replacement for Widowmakers?
#61
Discussed here with technical drawings and cautions:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-diameter.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-diameter.html
#62
I'm back on a (more) diligent search to replace my 6 (or 7) WMs... I have a buyer for the truck who I fear might forego the upgrade if I don't do it for them.... (or at least locate rims).
The use of the truck will be as a "portable sign"... actually a rolling art-project. They already run a 1 ton Step Van as an Art-Van all over the area so are "up" for the project if/when funded by a local grants project. It will *mostly* be sitting in parking lots for weeks at a time... which sounds to be the best/worst case scenario for the WMs (not being rolled around much, but in fact in very public places while waiting to be moved).
Any fresh sightings of a full set of 6 or 7 rims would be excellent!
The use of the truck will be as a "portable sign"... actually a rolling art-project. They already run a 1 ton Step Van as an Art-Van all over the area so are "up" for the project if/when funded by a local grants project. It will *mostly* be sitting in parking lots for weeks at a time... which sounds to be the best/worst case scenario for the WMs (not being rolled around much, but in fact in very public places while waiting to be moved).
Any fresh sightings of a full set of 6 or 7 rims would be excellent!
#63
Hi ,
so what we did on our F5 is got blank 19.5" wheels and made a template and drilled them out our self . the new wheels were like 150 each and then there was a bunch of time with the drill , but they work great. We did loose one left hand thread lug nut if any one has one to spare and then for our f3 we got 19.5 srw wheels from boar trailer company and they worked great too . neither are historically accurate , but they both look good , and fit well , and we got a great deal on good year 8r19.5 so they more or less look period ......
so what we did on our F5 is got blank 19.5" wheels and made a template and drilled them out our self . the new wheels were like 150 each and then there was a bunch of time with the drill , but they work great. We did loose one left hand thread lug nut if any one has one to spare and then for our f3 we got 19.5 srw wheels from boar trailer company and they worked great too . neither are historically accurate , but they both look good , and fit well , and we got a great deal on good year 8r19.5 so they more or less look period ......
The American Truck Wheels blanks option sounds good... I don't know what to expect from a machine shop to drill and chamfer 30+ holes to spec... it sounds doable but maybe a little technical? The detailed specs here make it look like something a good machinist can figure out easily?
In any case, it sounds like one of the tubeless rim sizes is a good option. This truck won't be hauling weight (although some of the poems *will be* kinda "heavy" I suspect, nor handling rough roads... original appearance isn't critical either, but looking moderately vintage is a good thing.
What I see offered on the website look to be $250/per ($1500/6)... I presume up to another $1500 for tires and at least $500 for machining?
Advice welcome before I go too far down this road.
#64
@DieselDog409 had a lead on a set of 19.5 wheels he was looking to obtain for himself, but passed on them as he has chosen to look for larger wheels for easier highway speeds. Maybe he could hook you, @49F6GrainDump , up with that set as your sign won't care about speed.
#65
#66
Here ius a video in a controlled environment doing a very brief weld and the temperature and pressure rise rapidly
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/wel...rning.1161212/
here is the full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUVzgCHHuA
the reaction is called pyrolosis
split rims kill. There are reasons why they are not used and why no one has already thought to weld them. You do you but I'm only trying to help keep you out of a bad situation
https://www.worksafebc.com/en/resources/health-safety/incident-investigation-report-summaries/welding-on-assembled-wheel-results-in-explosion?lang=en#
#67
I'm not picking on you I'm only trying to save your life. You NEVER weld on a rim with a tire still on the rim. They will explode
Here ius a video in a controlled environment doing a very brief weld and the temperature and pressure rise rapidly
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/wel...rning.1161212/
here is the full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUVzgCHHuA
the reaction is called pyrolosis
split rims kill. There are reasons why they are not used and why no one has already thought to weld them. You do you but I'm only trying to help keep you out of a bad situation
https://www.worksafebc.com/en/resour...osion?lang=en#
Here ius a video in a controlled environment doing a very brief weld and the temperature and pressure rise rapidly
https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/wel...rning.1161212/
here is the full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUVzgCHHuA
the reaction is called pyrolosis
split rims kill. There are reasons why they are not used and why no one has already thought to weld them. You do you but I'm only trying to help keep you out of a bad situation
https://www.worksafebc.com/en/resour...osion?lang=en#
#68
#70
please post pics after you weld the rims with tires mounted
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#72
Will do, but in that video it still has a valve core in the stem so it contained the heat induced pressure instead of just letting it vent out of the tube.
I understand your concern but it cant blow up if it cant hold pressure. thats why i have the tires flat on it now and the valve cores out so they cant go boom and hurt my idiotic brothers that kick them for fun.
I understand your concern but it cant blow up if it cant hold pressure. thats why i have the tires flat on it now and the valve cores out so they cant go boom and hurt my idiotic brothers that kick them for fun.
#73
@63flareside i will look for local options first but i will keep that in mind if i have to source some rims to weld centers into.
#74