4 on the Tree
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Cargo Master
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4 on the Tree
I know I'm slightly misguided here, but the Econoline Forum is a dead animal so I figured I'd get better coverage here. I added a '65 E-100 Pickup to my collection and am looking for a 4 speed column shifter. They used them in '63 and 64. Want to add a 4 speed w/OD to my new ride and keep it on the column. I've been contemplating using the 3 speed for 1-4, them fabricating a 1 speed floor shifter for reverse, but that would make it a one man truck. Unless I came up with a way to lock out the 4 speed while it's in reverse.
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First I want to see this E-100 pick up.
Is this a van with the top rear cut off to make a pick up?
Second I want to see some kind of proof that Ford had a 4 on the tree in 63 and 64 as I did not know they ever were done on USA cars or trucks.
If they used them in 63 & 64 what were they used on, car or truck or both?
I seen a French POS that had a 4 on the tree but that is the only one I had ever seen from anyone.
Good luck on your quest
Dave ----
Is this a van with the top rear cut off to make a pick up?
Second I want to see some kind of proof that Ford had a 4 on the tree in 63 and 64 as I did not know they ever were done on USA cars or trucks.
If they used them in 63 & 64 what were they used on, car or truck or both?
I seen a French POS that had a 4 on the tree but that is the only one I had ever seen from anyone.
Good luck on your quest
Dave ----
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I tjink Number Dummy mentioned Ford having a 4 speed column on some cars. I think they may have been in the '50's. I always thought it would be a neat setup if you have the room for the linkages.
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-the-tree.html
also found this article and video of 4 on the tree in a ‘61 galaxie.
https://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/...-linkage-ever/
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I would think finding any 4 speed column shifter parts will be next to impossible. I think your idea of using the 3 + rev for the four forward gears is the best solution. Maybe even use a cable to engage reverse instead of trying to route additional linkage.
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Maybe a more detailed explanation of the tranny you expect to use would be helpful. I would assume, since you want to use the column shift the tranny would necessarily have external shift arms? Are you looking at a tranny where 4th gear is OD? How was reverse engaged on these rarities that had a 4 on the tree? Just trying to get a picture of exactly what you wish to mate together
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I'm not sure what you think you will find in this forum, where there was never a 4 on the tree. And what more do you think there is to find?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...m-4-speed.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...m-4-speed.html
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Over only ever seen one 4 on the tree in my career, but I did see one. It was in a sixties Econoline.. it was at the upholstery shop next door to me so I didn't get to drive it or look underneath,
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I'm not sure what you think you will find in this forum, where there was never a 4 on the tree. And what more do you think there is to find?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...m-4-speed.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...m-4-speed.html
PS. I found the 4 speed, went down to Jacksonville and picked it up with a rebuilt 170 out of a '63 falcon. So I just need the shifter.
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First I want to see this E-100 pick up.
Is this a van with the top rear cut off to make a pick up?
Second I want to see some kind of proof that Ford had a 4 on the tree in 63 and 64 as I did not know they ever were done on USA cars or trucks.
If they used them in 63 & 64 what were they used on, car or truck or both?
I seen a French POS that had a 4 on the tree but that is the only one I had ever seen from anyone.
Good luck on your quest
Dave ----
Is this a van with the top rear cut off to make a pick up?
Second I want to see some kind of proof that Ford had a 4 on the tree in 63 and 64 as I did not know they ever were done on USA cars or trucks.
If they used them in 63 & 64 what were they used on, car or truck or both?
I seen a French POS that had a 4 on the tree but that is the only one I had ever seen from anyone.
Good luck on your quest
Dave ----
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