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Win all the way around. I don't want anything in the OBD port either. It is easy to tap thou to gain info. Thanks for the article
You are welcome Sir. Glad you found this thread useful and helpful. That was my intent all along. Somehow things got a little twisted and I was demonized and judged. No problem. As they say, “NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED!”
WOW!! Just WOW! Ludicrous 4 is a recipe for a ticket REAL fast! I honestly feel like I’m driving a different truck! This thing is fast once you get full control of the drive-by-wire throttle and it rolls on the full pedal! I can definitely see why people tune diesels, because this torque is addictive!
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The selling point of the Banks unit is that it uses the OBD port for power, and not the gas pedal circuit. They claim if the an aftermarket pedal unit getting power from the pedal circuit had a problem, you can lose your gas pedal entirely. I'm not an automotive electrical engineer, so I can't say if that is true or not.
This is true of universal devices (one-size-fit-all type) which play a chance game with the maximum current draw the accelerator pedal assembly is allowed. Not true of vehicle/brand-specific devices, like ours, which take into account that margin and meet it. It is very easy to put everything that connects to the pedal in the same bucket and play the fear card.
One of the main reasons certain designs have to draw current from the OBD2 port is because they consume so much current that they cannot draw it from the pedal.
For these types of devices (whichever you choose), does having a quicker response have any detrimental effects on the transmission, driveline, etc.? Also wondering if FMC could see having one of these as an excuse to void any part of the truck warranty.
I ordered the Soler unit this week for my 2019 F250 / 6.2L. I get that it modifies the percent throttle signal, but does it get rid of the delay in response? Or is a tune necessary to remove the delay. For instance when you go to pass someone, you step on the pedal and the truck waits a second or so to respond...
That delay in response is EXACTLY what these devices remove. As someone earlier said - they do not add power - they simply actuate the throttle more quickly.
I have a Pedal Commander on mine. Works awesome. Had I known about Soler I would have given it a try. The Banks and Pedal Commander units are over priced because they can be. I will admit that Banks is somewhat different because it is part of a modular system that offers a lot of other features - with a hefty price tag though. If people stop buying them and buying the Soler unit guess what PC and Banks will have to do? Competition is good. Who doesn't like to save money?
The only setting I don’t like on the controller is Economy. I understand the reason for the setting, but even on Eco 9, the initial take- off pedal is almost nonexistent and a little scary when turning through intersections.
For these types of devices (whichever you choose), does having a quicker response have any detrimental effects on the transmission, driveline, etc.? Also wondering if FMC could see having one of these as an excuse to void any part of the truck warranty.
No, any vehicle should be designed to withstand WOT torque and power (this is the extreme) of course we don't drive like that 99% of the time, and you do not need to be anywhere near WOT to get a quicker response.
We have not heard of a single case of warranty denied because of any of these devices (not ours, nor competitors) maybe that is because these do not cause any damage to NHA components, and that is something that has to be proven to deny warranty.
The only setting I don’t like on the controller is Economy. I understand the reason for the setting, but even on Eco 9, the initial take- off pedal is almost nonexistent and a little scary when turning through intersections.
A quick clarification. In ECO, VALET, and WEATHER modes, the higher the level number the gentler the response is. Perhaps EC.1 to 5 would be more appropriate.
De device is designed to have such a wide range that it is exceptionally rare to find a user set it at the extremes EC9 or LU9, that way the user has always room to find their exact preference.
Does it revert to factory output when shifted into reverse?
No, but that's never been an issue. If you familiarize yourself with the device you can easily regulate reverse maneuvers even at the most aggressive settings of the controller. As always, please start from low to high until you get to the setting you feel most comfortable with.
That delay in response is EXACTLY what these devices remove. As someone earlier said - they do not add power - they simply actuate the throttle more quickly.
I have 2017 6.2L with 4.3 rear.
I can honestly say that in 125,000+ miles that I have had 'several' scares due to slow throttle response. Either from a stop pulling into or across traffic or accelerating at highway speeds.
I have found that the Tow/Haul mode seems to provide some improvement in throttle response. Have simply not tried any of the these controllers discussed here.
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