Notices
2017 - 2022 Super Duty The 2017-2022 Ford F250, F350, F450, F550 & F600 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Sync 4 navigation after subscription runs out

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 27, 2021 | 10:58 AM
  #46  
analog's Avatar
analog
Cross-Country
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 62
Likes: 33
From: Central Oregon
Originally Posted by kshoop1958
One thing that really annoys me though, is whenever I use a voice activated command for navigation, it sends the command to the Ford nav system by default instead of sending it to Google Maps in Android Auto, even when Google Maps is active in Android Auto. Maybe that will stop when my 90 day Ford nav trial ends, but I'd love to change that now if a work-around exists. Right now, I have to manually enter my destination using the search function in Google Maps which totally defeats the purpose of "hands free" driving.
I use the Android Auto Google Maps feature exclusively and will control it via voice. Just say "Hey Google" and the phone wakes up and then you can say "Navigate to XYZ" and it does it in Google Maps. The Ford system never gets in my way.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2021 | 01:50 PM
  #47  
davidpacificnw's Avatar
davidpacificnw
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,147
Likes: 309
that's funny, just received an email from Ford today trying to sell me a "Sync 3 Navigation Update" for my F350 Lariat. Hmm, let me think how many times I've used the ford navigation in over three years and 40,000+ miles. Thinking, thinking, thinking....Oh, it's zero. I have never used it. Not once. Plug in Iphone, speak address, drive. Why would anyone pay for this crap.

I am putting a deposit down on a Grenadier this week. They don't even have it as an option. Their philosophy; people carry a computer with them everywhere they go with navigation built in, why complicate matters by putting on in our vehicles. Couldn't agree more. They OEM nav maps are worthless, complicated and the voice features is a totally joke.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2021 | 02:28 PM
  #48  
4wd6.7L's Avatar
4wd6.7L
Lead Driver
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 8,639
Likes: 2,433
Originally Posted by davidpacificnw
that's funny, just received an email from Ford today trying to sell me a "Sync 3 Navigation Update" for my F350 Lariat. Hmm, let me think how many times I've used the ford navigation in over three years and 40,000+......
What year is your truck? I have done 2 Nav updates on my 2019, most recent was yesterday, both times they were free. Yes they have a paid option as well, but it's not required.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2021 | 04:29 PM
  #49  
GABAR's Avatar
GABAR
Lead Driver
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 5,650
Likes: 243
From: GA
Originally Posted by kry226
FYSA, the built-in nav, which I need since I'm off the beaten path quite a bit with no cellular service, is only available in Platinum and Limited trims, per the 2022 Order Guide. Lariat and King Ranch only get the "Connected Nav," which uses your own cellular data.

Ford (all truck mfr's, actually) has already proven they can charge whatever they want for a truck, so why not make built-in nav available in all trims? What a scam.
FYI…..Download Magic Earth to your phone and you’re all set when you’re off the beaten path with no cell service.
Yes, the Magic Earth Navigation will display on the actual SYNC screen when you’re driving or on your phone when you’re walking.
Yes, it’s free and yes, it’ll work with or without cell service.
 
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2021 | 05:03 PM
  #50  
kry226's Avatar
kry226
Fleet Mechanic
Veteran: Army
5 Year Member
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,816
Likes: 541
From: Florida
Originally Posted by GABAR
FYI…..Download Magic Earth to your phone and you’re all set when you’re off the beaten path with no cell service.
Yes, the Magic Earth Navigation will display on the actual SYNC screen when you’re driving or on your phone when you’re walking.
Yes, it’s free and yes, it’ll work with or without cell service.
Yessir. I understand all that. Call me OCD, but some of us want a fully integrated, seamless navigation option that we paid for without needing to read the disingenuous fine print, or having to clutter up the dash with a phone with a special download, a Garmin with lifetime maps, or some other gadget. Yet Ford acts as if they have to move heaven and earth just to provide a GPS system.

Yes, I know, "your phone is so much better!" But here's the deal with any navigation system be it Google, Apple, or whatever-- you still have to know where you're going! All of them have led me astray at one time or another.
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 07:26 AM
  #51  
kshoop1958's Avatar
kshoop1958
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 977
Likes: 585
From: Middle TN
Originally Posted by analog
I use the Android Auto Google Maps feature exclusively and will control it via voice. Just say "Hey Google" and the phone wakes up and then you can say "Navigate to XYZ" and it does it in Google Maps. The Ford system never gets in my way.
I've never tried that, but I will today. Thanks for the tip!
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 05:00 PM
  #52  
JHForman812's Avatar
JHForman812
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 636
Have any of you tried waze on sync 4 yet? I wanted to use waze without having to connect via carplay but when i go under the sync app library it says theres no apps available for my truck.
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 05:18 PM
  #53  
JHForman812's Avatar
JHForman812
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 636
Ok spoke with ford, waze is no longer available via applink
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Oct 5, 2021 | 07:47 AM
  #54  
GABAR's Avatar
GABAR
Lead Driver
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 5,650
Likes: 243
From: GA
AppLink is useless.

First they dropped Spotify, then Sygic, and now Waze.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2021 | 05:33 PM
  #55  
kshoop1958's Avatar
kshoop1958
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 977
Likes: 585
From: Middle TN
Originally Posted by analog
I use the Android Auto Google Maps feature exclusively and will control it via voice. Just say "Hey Google" and the phone wakes up and then you can say "Navigate to XYZ" and it does it in Google Maps. The Ford system never gets in my way.
Tried this yesterday and it worked perfectly, thank you Analog!

I'm still getting used to voice commands with Sync 4 though. It's a bit wonky on when to speak, and for some reason my radio volume jacks up for a moment when I push the voice command button. On the other hand, those really are privileged first world complaints and I should probably stop whining!
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2021 | 05:42 PM
  #56  
kshoop1958's Avatar
kshoop1958
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 977
Likes: 585
From: Middle TN
Originally Posted by JHForman812
Have any of you tried waze on sync 4 yet? I wanted to use waze without having to connect via carplay but when i go under the sync app library it says theres no apps available for my truck.
I haven't tried Waze, but I discovered a glitch the other day that might be related to your problem. Make sure the Waze app is installed on your phone, and make sure the app hasn't gone to sleep. Some of my apps didn't show up in the truck until I shut off the "sleep" mode in phone settings for the apps I wanted. That's on my Android though, your iPhone might be different.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2021 | 10:27 PM
  #57  
JHForman812's Avatar
JHForman812
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 636
Originally Posted by kshoop1958
I haven't tried Waze, but I discovered a glitch the other day that might be related to your problem. Make sure the Waze app is installed on your phone, and make sure the app hasn't gone to sleep. Some of my apps didn't show up in the truck until I shut off the "sleep" mode in phone settings for the apps I wanted. That's on my Android though, your iPhone might be different.

im on sync4 I spoke with Ford and they confirmed they pulled waze from app link, while I don’t mind CarPlay, sync does most of the features I use just fine but once this trial nav ends I want a replacement, you could use waze on sync3 as primary nav, can’t on sync4
 
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2021 | 10:27 PM
  #58  
nukem25rs's Avatar
nukem25rs
5th Wheeling
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 28
Likes: 6
If you use car play or Android auto and you use Google maps you can download map areas to your phone..so if you are going off the beaten path you can download the entire area your going to be in and any forest service road.. Road.. Or trail that's already listed in Google maps normally will be stored on your phone and you use that to navigate just like when you are on cellular service..
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2021 | 05:24 PM
  #59  
Brantel's Avatar
Brantel
More Turbo
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 508
Likes: 196
My trial expired. As expected it turned into a worthless simple moving map with no features whatsoever.
 
Reply
Old Nov 26, 2021 | 07:05 PM
  #60  
davidpacificnw's Avatar
davidpacificnw
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,147
Likes: 309
Originally Posted by Brantel
My trial expired. As expected it turned into a worthless simple moving map with no features whatsoever.
That's such BS. Just p1$$3$ me off. You spent a crap load of cash on that truck and they pull this. Makes me want to keep my 2018 Lariat forever. Lots of ill will being generated.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:32 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE