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Old May 21, 2021 | 01:15 PM
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Question EV Charger Cost

Do the dealers give the customer any idea how much additional cost after buying this EV vehicle, is for an EV quick charging unit for the home. I don't think 110 volts is going to be all that great and 220 volts will have to be run from house breaker or where ever to garage or driveway.

I also don't think all countries give incentives on EV vehicle purchases which also raises the overall cost.
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 01:51 PM
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It would probably take a full week to charge a 180kwh battery on 120v so that's a non starter. To be able to use both chargers you will need a 80amp 240v circuit. This would mean if you needed that charging capacity it will need to be for most a dedicated service. I think most would be okay using the 40amp charger at home which is a lot less hassle.
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 02:18 PM
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I would assume it comes with the truck, just have to pay an electrician to install it. I'll find out soon enough.
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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I spoke to a few electricians about this earlier in the year, it's all depending on the location where you want your 240V charger and how much room you have on your panel. Basically, the further you go from the panel, the more expensive it gets (plus whether or not you add something like Ford's dedicated Level 2 charger).

If, for example, you already have 240V in your garage or shop and there's room on your panel, it might be a couple hundred bucks for another wall outlet. Need to something complex or far away from your panel or an actual new panel, you're talking thousand(s).

As for the plugs themselves, they do indeed come with the vehicles.
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
I would assume it comes with the truck, just have to pay an electrician to install it. I'll find out soon enough.
Past history across EV's is they all come with a level one charger but no level 2 charger. It's also been practice in the market to upsell the customers a level two charger at purchase, often for thousands more then it should cost.

Willing to bet the new wall charger is what will be the standard of Ford's level 2 offering. For the Mach E they state you can buy it with the vehicle and finance the full install. I am sure there will be many that do.

https://www.levittownfordparts.com/s...BoC9FMQAvD_BwE



https://www.ford.com/buy-site-wide-c...harge-station/
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MPalmer
I spoke to a few electricians about this earlier in the year, it's all depending on the location where you want your 240V charger and how much room you have on your panel. Basically, the further you go from the panel, the more expensive it gets (plus whether or not you add something like Ford's dedicated Level 2 charger).
At 80-amps for the power draw, homes with a 100-amp panel have insufficient power for a level 2 charger. So one would have to factor in another $3K for a service upgrade to at least 200-amps. Of course after a couple of months worth of higher electric bills, seek out a solar company and you could end up driving for next to nothing, and that can more than pay for the installation costs over time.
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 03:13 PM
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Just came across this information exclusive to the F150 Lightning.

"(RTTNews) - Sunrun (RUN), a home solar, battery storage, and energy services provider, said that it has partnered with Ford Motor Co. (F) to provide installation of 80-amp Ford charge station pro and home integration system for the all-electric Ford F-150 Lightning."

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/sunr...ing-2021-05-19

This should work out great, I already have a 6kW solar array on the roof and inverter on the side of the house next to both the main breaker panel and the carport. No mention of cost though, from the way I read it, it comes with the purchase of the truck. If not I'll just call my electrician that wired in my whole home generator.

If I have to pay another thousand for the charger, I'll consider it an accessory just like I did when I bought IDS at the same time I bought my current truck, that was $1,500 less the laptop to run it.
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 03:21 PM
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Just wanted to jump in to make sure everyone's on the same page about what they're asking/answering because we may be using the team "charger" differently. (At least I was) Basically, there are THREE ways to charge the F-150 Lightning at home:
  • 80-amp Ford Charge Station Pro (available for the extended range battery. when used as a dual charger, you get 30-miles of range per hour)
  • 48-amp Ford Connected Charge station (available for the standard range battery. it's not a dual charger, and adds 19-miles of range per hour)
Both of those options cost extra because they are fixed charging stations that you install at your home.

OR
  • You can use the provided mobile charging unit that's included with all Ford EVs. This you can plug into a 240v or 120v outlet (13-miles and 3-mile of range per hour, respectively.)
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by alloro
At 80-amps for the power draw, homes with a 100-amp panel have insufficient power for a level 2 charger. So one would have to factor in another $3K for a service upgrade to at least 200-amps. Of course after a couple of months worth of higher electric bills, seek out a solar company and you could end up driving for next to nothing, and that can more than pay for the installation costs over time.
very good point. my quotes were for standard 240v outlets.
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 03:36 PM
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What ever I get, (not sold on the extended range battery) as my commute is less than 4 miles per day, I have room for any of them just about 15' from my carport. I have 200A service, (box closest to fence) automatic switch next, then the invertor next to the disconnect for the array.



The array feeds the grid at all times what the house isn't consuming.


 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 04:00 PM
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I wouldn't need the extended range either... but the extra horsepower, I'm all for that
 
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Old May 21, 2021 | 04:09 PM
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I wouldn't need the extended range either... but the extra horsepower, I'm all for that
You had to mention that. And I just filled my truck up with some high octane E-85 for that very reason. Ok extended horsepower battery it is.
 
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Old May 22, 2021 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
What ever I get, (not sold on the extended range battery) as my commute is less than 4 miles per day
Three thing to consider are...one, you occasionally might have an unexpected reason to have to make a longer trip, two a multi-day power outage that keeps you from being able to charge it or you might want to go provide power to a loved ones home for a bit, third, the extend range will make the vehicle more valuable when the time comes to trade it in or sell it.
 
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Old May 22, 2021 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by alloro
Three thing to consider are...one, you occasionally might have an unexpected reason to have to make a longer trip, two a multi-day power outage that keeps you from being able to charge it or you might want to go provide power to a loved ones home for a bit, third, the extend range will make the vehicle more valuable when the time comes to trade it in or sell it.
All very good things to consider but I've got all of that covered already. I have a whole home back up generator that will charge if needed, if I take a trip longer than 200 miles I'll fly. I hate long drives, I do enough of that at work all week long.

The only loved one near me is my mom and I have her house wired up with a generator already. Resale value has never been a factor in anything I buy. I buy things for me to use up, if there's anything of value left when I'm done with what ever it might be, I usually donate it to charity. Did that with my last boat and a car.

However, the extra horse power the extended range battery offers is enough to sell me.
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by alloro
Three thing to consider are...one, you occasionally might have an unexpected reason to have to make a longer trip, two a multi-day power outage that keeps you from being able to charge it or you might want to go provide power to a loved ones home for a bit, third, the extend range will make the vehicle more valuable when the time comes to trade it in or sell it.
It better darn well be more valuable with the extended range battery! It’s likely to add $10,000 to the cost when adding the option.
 
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