When it comes to Rapid Charger Stations, I pulled them up on interactive maps they seem centered in very high Population density areas, most likely Banking/financial and Colleges areas. No parking to speak of just large crowds. Many younger employees can use mass transit after stopping off at the local 2'nd or 3rd floor pub for a couple of hours. When you look at the traffic patterns its might end up, like being stranded in the Desert with a tons of buzzards (tow trucks prepositioned) They preposition so they don't have to drive for miles in heavy traffic to get to predetermined tow areas.

 

A good read for those trying to figure out this Green lifestyle coming at us ! Especially California and other States with Conditions !

How Much Energy Does A Solar Panel Produce? | EnergySage

May be the effective way to Charge in a Rural/edge of town/Burb Life style.

 

Yep I got a lot of doubts about ↑↑

 

You have clearly shown this technology is not something you're interested in so please leave this thread for the rest of us that are interested.

 

Just out of curiosity, what does this have to do with the F150 Lightning? Wouldn’t this be more closely related to a solar power, or even a generator forum? Power generation and delivery(charging) are completely separate things; the overwhelming majority of EV owners don’t have solar panels.

Let’s keep this on topic. This forum is about pickup trucks.

 

Sorry the Lightning Thread says EV Charger Costs, which might include ways to charge it. My County Capital City is completing a Solar Charging Field which I belong to. So I see Solar as a great opportunity for Burg living. Since thats the type of HOA I live in. I apologize to the Mod. I am not against the Lightning, believe it will be a great 175 mile a day commuter mostly if it can cosistantely get 12 -14 hours a day / night charge time ! Facts it cannot ever meet my needs is immaterial. I still like it. Facts remain facts ! Many years ago I lived within 6 minutes of work, drove 150 miles a week. It would have been purr-fect truck for me. Same with others who commute short distances. I like its capabilities. Realistically its a daily short range commuter that can pull a trailer with a mower on it all over a small town return home for dinner and charge a couple hours and go again.

I guess my point is 240 volt charger cord 1 hour plugged in = 13 mph gain to the battery on average = 20 hours x 13 = 260 miles of range. see how crazy it gets. If you think you can get out to near 400 miles if you had a battery capable of it, you got to charge it for 30 hours or so battery on charger hours. These are at home plugged in 240 Volt facts.

Hating facts doesn't change them. Again I apologize. to the MOD. just explaining myself and my honest opinion. This is not a new Technology, people have been powering equipment with DC and DC Alternating Current for near 100 years ! The Solid State power Control systems have evolved and minaturized but still do the same things control current flow in the most efficient way and the Storage batteries well they are still evolving for storage ability but the Technology of it all is really just the system on the market today.
My Lake home area recently put a #185 Huge Wind Generation field into operation. Also a huge plus but the Coal fired and NG fired are shutting down most of the time. also a fact of life !.
IMHO everything that has been in the Thread has to do with the F150 Lightning. Not all of it is awesome happiness but still its a great truck with capabilities.

My 46 1/2 year career was fixing these power control systems of the past. be it resister, Carbon pile, SCR, early and late Transistor Semi Conductor Systems in Industrial Plant situations ! Control Changes, Stored Charge capabilities change, but the actual facts just adjust to the end of the day sheet !

To me this is appealing and a Garage queen, going to the store a couple times a week and the trip to the Zoo with the Grand babies vehicle for the average retired guy. 200 miles a week tops. Just seeing how touchy guys are about it pretty much puts in the garage a lot ! IMHO ! Basic Laymans terms, plugged in to 240V and charging all day and night ! You know in my HMHO Charging all the time mostly like an Electric golf cart. It goes about 6 miles a day on average ! Much cheaper than a gas cart when adding maintenance !

 

Actually it has a lot to do with the F-150 Lightning. The use of solar panel to reduce the charging costs related to the F-150 Lightning is a valid topic that some might wish to look into. As far as EV drivers having solar panels, as of December 2019 38% (US and Canada) did with another 10% looking into it.

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/12/25...ooftop%20solar.

 

I already have a solar array.





I don't visit forums related to them either. Why would I care to read about it in this section of a truck forum titled EV Charger Cost? It is a valid topic but should be posted to it's own thread. Just throwing all topics together makes no sense and very difficult to index in a search.

 

Way I see it if ya want the Lightning ya gonna spend what it take to charge it. Maybe get a local high cap charging station with a petition to your Congressman. Its huge if this $100,000,000.000 becomes a $trillian yearly business for us. I could use one knowing a 40 minute charging stop can get me 15 -80% charge & top off later & finish my trip.
With time to fully recharge. I need lots of quick charger stops out there to get a winner. Now its basically Nada happening anytime soon enough !
I do sometimes seem to go a little to Conservative to get what I think needs done liberally ! I don't mean to make Mods job harder !

 

I can think of two reason, the first is that this is not your personal forum...meaning you don't get to regulate its' contents. The second is, although the thread is titled EV Charger Costs, there are those that will understandably read that as EV Charging Costs. If it's that important to you there is nothing stopping you from creating a thread about EV charging costs (power grid or solar) to which you could direct people to. This EV section is fairly new and still evolving, it will take time to get it to more closely follow the structure of other sections here at FTE.

 

No it's not my personal forum but I am entitled to my opinion which is shared by others. If the post about the solar is so important, THEY can create the thread and stick it in there themselves, why should I be burdened with the task?

Take a look at a main page of this or any forum, you see how it's divided into sections by topic? The reason for that is 1. To keep things tidy and organized and for search engine indexing for later retrieval. and 2. It just makes sense to talk about sewing machines in a sewing machine forum, not an M1 Abrams tank thread.

When you allow people to ***** nilly just throw all topics together into one conglomerate, forums turn into a fustercluck, you of all people should know that.

 

I disagree. That’s like saying that 98% of F150 owners fuel their trucks with E10 gasoline, so we should permit ethanol distilling threads in the Super Duty forum.

Apples and oranges. We customarily shove those threads down to the general forum because they have nothing to do with the trucks themselves, therefore they don’t really belong in the technical forums. This isn’t an environmental or clean energy forum, we’re about pickup trucks.

 

You're going beyond just stating your opinion and you're entering the dictating zone. I suggested you create the topic only because you seem to overly bothered by it, if it's not worth your effort to do something so simple "to help" then don't expect anyone to do it for you.

As to the rest of of your post, I do not need instructions or examples from you on how run this forum. Comparing a sewing machine to an Abrams M1 Tank does not come close to grouping EV charger costs and EV charging costs together. If you feel you have so much to offer you are welcome to contact the admin and request moderator status for this forum, but until that happens, if it happens, I am 1 of 3 that say how things are done here and I'm saying the topic of solar panels for EV charging is close enough to be considered on topic here. This is not a debate, this is me as the forum moderator telling you the topic is staying as is and to let it go.

 

Actually it pretty much is since we're talking about an EV and not gas or diesel trucks. If you go into the forums for the gas and diesel trucks you will find many posts that talk about the fuel, the same topic is fair here except that the fuel is electricity.

 

This would appear the way to go. It has approximate costs. Those who have a large garage or detached, it would make purr_fect sense. Most homes are taxed with allready used Circuits and have little to offer even if 200 amp service. The below ↓↓ The second meter costs added to my Sons home stopped the addition in the loft of his garage in S.C. But to happily own a EV with acceptable range capabilities of a busy weeks use it makes perfect sense I believe. It puts in the Stage 2 charger thats actually a + for range. Sons home used a lot of power with zone tankless water heaters a great plus but also a negative for additional 240 V. breakers service ! I dealt with these on the farm for Hog Confinements but not in Residential areas. Still it can work well. Install costs bust it for many on a budget is a thought ! My home is an excellent example, 200 amp service average daily usage in June/July near 75 Kwh per hour average. No room for EV charger. A second service would need to happen. We have 2 businesses out of the home, online with 4 monitors in 2 at home offices ! At times a 3rd monitor is lit up. Whew But for EV it is an acceptable option for us if local fast charging happens, say next 3 years or so ! Most likely many will do as I did and build a second Garage 32'X24' 10'walls. $30,000 + today So the F150 sets inside out of the torrential rains !

Cost of installing second Meter? | Tesla Motors Club
I believe the best advise, especially if daylight hours are your charger needs, go solar, sell power back when you aren't charging. It is the best cost wise I believe. For those living in Rural large lots of 1-2 acres or more it is easy to south face a solar parking lot instead of on roof and easier to remove tree shade from. Many thousands live in these rural Burbs in my area.

Naturally the closer to the F150 parking spot the more efficient.