Just saw this on the Ford Lightning website that relates directly to the op's question. Apparently Ford is squeaking out info as time goes on.

"All Ford F-150 Lightning series come with the 32-amp Ford Mobile Charger which allows you to charge from a traditional 120V or 240V outlet. No special stations required. The extended-range battery comes standard with the 80-amp Ford Charge Station Pro. This allows a peak charging power of 19.2 kW enabled by the battery’s dual onboard chargers which means a full charge overnight."

Source: https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f15...ing/2022/#faqs

 

Good info, thanks.

It’s important to remember how much installation cost can vary. Ford is doing the typical thing by including a standard 32A Level II charger for the base model, which should be adequate for the smaller battery. It still needs a 240v circuit though, but smaller gauge wire than the 80A would require.

My breaker box is in the garage, and it cost me about $300 in wire and accessories to install the outlet I plug my charger into. The 6-gauge wire I used is good for 50A, so I would need to run another line to charge the extended range at full speed. An electrician would likely charge around $1,200 for the work, but mine was relatively easy. There’s no good way to ballpark an estimate for this; it depends on the layout of your house and electrical system.

Once installed, it’s awesome. Starting each day with a full “tank” and never having to worry about gas stations is something you’ll get used to and never want to give up. Speaking of that, I’ve gotta go plug mine in.

 

As well as geographical region. As they say in the real estate business, location, location, location. It applies to more than just a house and land.

The way I see it is,.... if it's needed, ........

 

I'm shocked that this subject is not talked about here or in/on the MSM with the demand that will be needed to POWER millions of electric vehicles of all kinds with the 80 AMP, 220 volt fast chargers talked about here being the final straw that break's the camels back , Remember last fall when California Gov Newson said ,Turn OFF YOUR AIR-CONDITIONING and to turn ON A FAN due to brown out & blackouts in that state , That lack of capacity in generation AND supply in electric power cabling above & below ground along with overloaded substations is NOT just limited to just that state as building permits keep being given out adding to the electric LOAD daily nationwide , Closer to home on your own 200 AMP service with people here talking about the 220 volt fast chargers that can draw up to 80 AMP'S of your 200 AMP service to your home I can see the day when the wife says ,Honey, go unplug the truck, I need to use the microwave, Seems the CART is in front of the HORSE again, We have plenty of power where we live but still have Generac backup generators at the business and at home due to outages from ice storms and other weather related issues, Solar panels work to power your home with out everything being turned ON at the same time, add in an 80 AMP ,220 volt fast charger to the mix and see where your at, Good luck.

 

Phew! Holy mother of run on sentences! I think I got the jist if this. It’s not like everyone is running out to buy electric cars at once. In my area, ComEd has been updating the grid for about 6 years. Can’t seem to control outages, but the power is there. Now, I have the extra amps for one vehicle, but not two. Doubt we’ll ever go full electric here. We still like to travel and pull trailers.

 

I'm not an electrical engineer for a power company, but there are plenty of them who are. These are the people far smarter than I who are working on this. To assume the lot of them is blitheringly incompetent seems like a stretch to me. I use an off-peak circuit to charge my car, and get an incentivized lower rate for my trouble. So people are thinking about it. Where there's a will...

 

Sounds like everyone is packed into one big state of California from that run on sentence. Couldn't risk the headache from trying to read it.

 

Honestly, I think there are a lot of people who are extremely resistant to change. So they reach for reasons to blame for change being bad.

Switching to electric powertrains is a big deal with lots of decisions that need to be made, but not all change is bad. My ownership experience has been fantastic, and I have faith that the brains at my local power company know what they're doing.

 

I would imagine some of that resistance are oil field employees that see it as threat as well as corporate paid moles who's only job is to go on forums like this within this subject to try and discourage the technology at every opportunity.

 

The upfront cost is what's holding me back. Also the added cost of burning through tires faster, because they are not yet designed to handle the instant torque of an electric motor. $1000 for a new set of tires every other year wears on you a bit. You may get some savings by not having to spend $50 on an oil change every 6 months, or having to spend $200 or so per month on gas.

I'd fork over the cash for the high output charger. I'm already in the process of talking to electricians and the power company to get more power to my garage. I only have a single 15 amp breaker going to my detached garage. I'd like to have at least a 100 amp sub panel just to do some welding and other projects. It'll be expensive to do it, however it will future proof me, plus I may look into solar panels for the home and garage to help off set costs over the course of ownership.

 

OMG! You are the guy I followed this past week every day that was first off the line at EVERY stoplight, and sitting there at the next with red brake lights burning brightly as I pulled up. Give me a break! If you are burning up tires, that means you need to keep your foot out of it. After millions of miles of driving, I constantly get excellent miles out of tires that other truck buffs complain they can’t get 30k. My last Coopers were replaced at 55k under a warranty issue, and the dealer tested the tread left at 60%.

 

The tire thing is exclusively dependent on driving style. Lots of folks with my identical car see 40k+ on the factory tires. I got just over half that, but it was my fault. I'm heavy on the throttle and love to accelerate. People reporting shortened tire life almost always drive aggressively. If you drive a Lightning like a sane human, tire life shouldn't be much different. I rotate every 5K because my rear tires hit the traction limit at least once or twice per trip.

I just rotated after 5,000 miles on my new set. My rears were at 9/32nds, and fronts at 10/32. An AWD pickup should be more uniform and less prone to quick tire wear.

 

Well ideally that's about when you should rotate your tires from what I've seen regardless of the vehicle. Where I was getting the tire wear thing from was Jason from Engineering Explained for a couple years ago. However I tend to take what he says with a grain of salt these days. But it also depends on tire brand as well. Michelin, Goodyear Wrangler SR-A, and Bridgestone Dueler H/L come to mind that don't have a very good tread life. Usually they are burned up around 34K-40K miles, with light use and decent driving habits.

I wonder if the battery packs if they have in the preproduction will be changed out for better ones when it goes into production later this year.

 

I’m crunching numbers, and I think from what I’m calculating, I could save about $350 a month in fuel, considering a 60% to 80% charge 6 days a week and one 30% to 80% one day a week. That’s over $4,000 a year in fuel alone right now at my reduced mileage due to job load the next year. Then I’ll go up in mileage, which helps the savings more. Im
working on numbers from
a 3.0L diesel, which no gasser can match so far. Frankly, the oil changes mean squat to me as I do them myself cheaper anyway. This will be more of a “participation in a new era” than saving big money… I think.

 

I'd be surprised if they weren't different in some manner. I don't think the SK Innovation factory that's supplying the packs is complete yet.

I completely believe that with your solar panels. But with a good electric rate, the savings can be almost as good. I went from burning $2-300 in gas each month to $50 in electricity. I normally go about 2,000 miles per month.