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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by robert sloane
the big take away to prevent our household from gettting one is
i had to do an almost 1300 mile round trip to fl in a hurry
if i get 300 range and then have to charge for 10 hrs( if i can find a level 2 charger near a hotel), , it would have taken me 4 or 5 days to get there and back. freaking nuts
the way the manufacturers are acting, it seems we no longer as Americans need to drive more than 250 -300 miles at one time , then be tethered to a charger (held hostage) for 10 or more hours (sitting duck) .
Level 2 chargers are only used for parking overnight; travelling is a completely different animal. For road trips, you use a Level 3 DC fast charger that dumps as much as 150 Kw into the battery. Charge times are longer than a gas stop, but not unbearably so, and are usually placed near restaurants and other facilities.




And these are all the DC fast chargers compatible with the Lightning that charge >120Kw -





It would take longer than it would in a gas truck, but not by much. I've travelled 1,300 miles to the East coast in my standard-range Tesla in 2 days a few times now. You'd go faster in a Lightning with longer range.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 04:09 PM
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Level 2 chargers are only used for parking overnight; travelling is a completely different animal. For road trips, you use a Level 3 DC fast charger that dumps as much as 150 Kw into the battery. Charge times are longer than a gas stop, but not unbearably so, and are usually placed near restaurants and other facilities.




And these are all the DC fast chargers compatible with the Lightning that charge >120Kw -





It would take longer than it would in a gas truck, but not by much. I've travelled 1,300 miles to the East coast in my standard-range Tesla in 2 days a few times now. You'd go faster in a Lightning with longer range.
if those stations are actually there, it would make a small difference . i have to go look them up, of course both chargers in my area are over 40 miles away. it was odd my lincoln dealer near by was not listed.
anywhooo thanks for the links , some are free are car dealers for now along my route to fl
thanks
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by robert sloane
if those stations are actually there, it would make a small difference . i have to go look them up, of course both chargers in my area are over 40 miles away. it was odd my lincoln dealer near by was not listed.
anywhooo thanks for the links , some are free are car dealers for now along my route to fl
thanks
I haven’t been to the stations in question, but I’m pretty sure they’re real. That’s from the www.plugshare.com website, which is a public database of fast chargers. I’ve used it in the past with my Tesla and haven’t had issues finding the spots they list. A lot of them are the Electrify America network which was built by Volkswagen after the dieselgate scandal. I believe Ford invested in them as well, and they provide free charging credits on this network for the MachE. I’d guess we’d see similar for the Lightning, at least for the first models sold until they become more common.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2021 | 04:13 PM
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What ever I get, (not sold on the extended range battery) as my commute is less than 4 miles per day, I have room for any of them just about 15' from my carport. I have 200A service, (box closest to fence) automatic switch next, then the invertor next to the disconnect for the array.



The array feeds the grid at all times what the house isn't consuming.
1st place that picture will never mount on outdoor the side of my house except the meter. Look at all the Black mold coming down from the Eaves of the house to the Ground and all over the side of the place. Wow what a Cluster **** !
 
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Old Jul 23, 2021 | 05:00 PM
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1st place that picture will never mount on outdoor the side of my house except the meter. Look at all the Black mold coming down from the Eaves of the house to the Ground and all over the side of the place. Wow what a Cluster **** !
That is the north side of the house. I wash it down about every 2 years or as needed. What you see is green moss, common in this area. If it looks black you might need an eye exam or a new puter monitor. Or did you mean the black on the ground, that would be dirt. Rain runoff of the roof gouges out a line the length of the house. I should have some gutters installed to stop that.

This is how it looks after a quick wash down.



 
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Old Jul 23, 2021 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
That is the north side of the house. I wash it down about every 2 years or as needed. What you see is green moss, common in this area. If it looks black you might need an eye exam or a new puter monitor. Or did you mean the black on the ground, that would be dirt. Rain runoff of the roof gouges out a line the length of the house. I should have some gutters installed to stop that.

This is how it looks after a quick wash down.



Thanks, You see it as Moss and I see it as Black Mold in a shady wet place and extremely dangerous to the health of your family, maybe grind it off with a surface sander. Spray killer on it, Bleach and water etc. Whatever works for you. It could cause damage there and family sickness are my thoughts ! My offer, is bust those damaged boards off and put new in with a good protective sealer on the wood !

my hopefully helpful hints !
 
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Old Jul 23, 2021 | 05:45 PM
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My property is not the topic of discussion here, which by the way is EV chargers. Try to stay on topic and don't you worry a thing about my family or my moss or anything else you might think you see in the pic.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 12:01 AM
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Sorry I only put my perspective to that area. I did not mean to insinuate anything, only IMHO ! But again power would never be on the outside of any of my properties except the meter ! I am a pro ! That was my original input, only noticed the mold or Moss hanging there as a really bad thing. I know many homes back when in certain states did have it but never any of my Constructions. I did not intend to offend you just point out the obvious !

← very damp area !
Getting back to your topic I am sure in 10 years many rapid Chargers will be in place to satisfy your away from the home block needs. Right know its not so good but not so many EV's as there will be in a handfull of years, millions then. Again more Chargers, more vehicals, more chargers. Its like a poker game ! Anti up thas the game if you want to see the cards !
The moment I saw that black streak on the fence I thought this ! Sorry ! Of course this is mostly on all the fence in this shady damp area. It is mostly in early stages, not wood destroying later stages. Mold will turn good untreated wood into something weaker than cardboard in just f few years if it gets continual moisture to prolific on. Again I did not mean to infer anything just my professional opinion as to what I happened to notice in a photo ! All of us have to deal with the shaded parts of all our homes, have to deal with the Green and Black growths in especially wet years !
Getting back to your original question I see Solar if you have a south facing roof to instal it on as the way to go. Most likely there are State incentives and you can sell power back to the grid also. Will it work Flawlessly ?. does anything ? Its obvious that the plan is to drive Gas and Diesel up to 10 dollars a gallon in the next 10 years to put it out of business. My opinion is Green will not fulfill the needs but wait an see is an honest question ? I have a great South facing roof (60x24') all I got to do is remove 8 adult very tall trees to put there after I reroof the place. Sort of a loser idea now for me to do but in time I shall see, say 5 years.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 01:49 AM
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How Much Does It Cost to Charge an Electric Car? | Kelley Blue Book (kbb.com)

Since a great deal of us drive 2000 miles a month or more it is easily multiplied and economically charged after 9 pm until 7 am. Obviously it is not really important to fully charge the modern battery because of the time factor and its acceptance of that top chargs so lets say 85% is a great way point of charge which gives you 85% range or around 200 + miles a day of commuter to work, soccer games, golf and grocery shopping. Obviously one needs to plan the route one wants to drive each day to enjoy the of EV commuting experience at its best ! No plan, it won't work well for long !
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa Tiger
How Much Does It Cost to Charge an Electric Car? | Kelley Blue Book (kbb.com)

Since a great deal of us drive 2000 miles a month or more it is easily multiplied and economically charged after 9 pm until 7 am. Obviously it is not really important to fully charge the modern battery because of the time factor and its acceptance of that top chargs so lets say 85% is a great way point of charge which gives you 85% range or around 200 + miles a day of commuter to work, soccer games, golf and grocery shopping. Obviously one needs to plan the route one wants to drive each day to enjoy the of EV commuting experience at its best ! No plan, it won't work well for long !
I charged to 85% every day and always had enough juice for my daily running around. In the winters I bumped that up to 90% because of the cold weather effect, but these were on a Tesla that was notorious for not living up to its range claims. If Ford is truly underrating them under the assumption of a load, you wouldn't want to charge to max every day. There's just no need, and it would put unnecessary stress on a very expen$ive battery.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 07:37 AM
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Not to mention losing the benefit of regenerative braking when going full charge.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
Not to mention losing the benefit of regenerative braking when going full charge.
Yes! This is something a lot of people forget about. More than a few threads have been started on the Tesla forums from people asking what's wrong with their car after charging to max for the first time. Some makes don't have this by artificially limiting the max charge capacity and showing an indicated 100%, but I'm not sure if Ford does this or not.
 
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Think Ford is in it 4th generation of Regen breaking. It takes a different style of driving to utilize it to full capacity. Regen breaking can recapture near 95% of the kinetic energy of the vehicle when slowing down for a stop or on a hill. Again the style of driving adds or decreases its effectiveness. Basically let up on the accel pedal and let the drive motors slow the vehicle more gradually thus the motors act as brakes and generate electricity back to the battery thru a Diode system that blocks drive current while accelerating. Which most likely is a alternating DC power feed. This had become mostly Standard power controls by 2010 in industrial equipment. The communication between the TCM and PCM chooses how much Regen to handle when braking so it works at best values. Basically co-joined at the hip. This style of driving will most likely frustrate other drivers who are in a big rush who aren't "Driving like an old man basically" ! Slowing down early for longer durations without using the brakes is a hard sell on many drivers most likely. These vehicles are most likely rapid slow down when at interstate speeds also, much faster than say taking your foot off the gas pedal of your 2009 5.4L F150 I wonder if the brake lights will come on when regen braking !

One might think, I have 120 miles on my EV today and tonight the Kids play ball in Ball town which is 48 miles from your house. Well if it has a lot of hills you may be able to regen enough to make it there to their game, find a charger, and grab a quick charge before the game starts to make it back home. Maybe you won't need the headlights, heater or AC either, pretty much like getting a 1/4 tank of gas ! Needing headlights, Heater and AC may call for more plans but a good plan is one that will work and adjustable so if seems not to be working on can be changed so it will work most of the time and be a good/better plan. One that is working !
 
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
My property is not the topic of discussion here, which by the way is EV chargers. Try to stay on topic and don't you worry a thing about my family or my moss or anything else you might think you see in the pic.
All that aside...good job hiding the wheels.

 
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Old Aug 5, 2021 | 10:54 PM
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Just saw this :

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Ford F-150 Lightning trucks come with a mobile charging unit equipped with a choice of cords that can plug into either a 240-volt NEMA 14-50 outlet (for 13 miles per charging hour) or a conventional 120-volt outlet (for 3 miles per charging hour). Lets see 12 hours at 240 volts = maybe 150 miles range. give or take a hick-up or 2. the wisdom of this Project's, "Pulling the Stretchy stuff" out there !
 
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