I will cut and paste my question and do just that.

 

Absolutely was, thank you. I personally like the Ram interior (limited trim) very much. It has high quality materials (at least on first impression). There is more plastic in the Ford, That is what my heart tells me. My brain on the other hand tells me the Ford is less likely to have issues. I do like the look of the Ford on the outside better than the Ram, and it seems like it may be the "better more reliable" tool of the two.

 

Sir, this is an amazing response. You should be a writer! Your real life experience shines through and has me believing in Ford more than ever.

 

In the end, only you can decide.

You should test drive both and then make your choice.

 

Sorry to disappoint you with this thread, but when you end up in my hospital and need surgery, I will answer every one of your questions, no matter how silly they may sound to me, because you are looking for support from someone with knowledge that you don't have. I understand the limitations of such questions in a forum, but despite those limitations good/helpful information is easily garnered from such discussions. Next time don't participate, you'll be much happier.

 

No, I'm just new to HD pickups (and 5th wheels) and am trying to make the best decision I can. As I learn more, my thoughts change and I develop new questions. I thought that was what forums were for. It seems most members are happy to share their knowledge and I appreciate all of their comments.

 

I’ve never understood why RAM owners drive around with the tow mirrors fully extended and they’re not towing anything.

I wish I had a pic but every time I see a RAM like this and nothing being towed, it immediately reminds me of Beavis turning into Cornholio with his hans up and his shirt pulled over his head.

I’m sure some of you know what I’m talking about.

 

I may have misconstrued your post. Not sure if you were calling me or DSLTRK60 a troll. If not me then my apologies.

 

That is hilarious. I am Cornholio and I am looking for TP for my bunghole!

 

It's because of the way the mirrors are designed. The convex shape at the outside of the mirrors when they're 'folded' is useless. Believe me, I'm not defending it at all, I hate the Ram tow mirrors, but that's the reason why they do it. At least unfolded, the convex bottom can act like a blind spot mirror.

 

I will STRONGLY suggest that you find a CAT Scale (most large truck stops have them) and weight truck and truck with 5th wheel, I think your wt values are low, very low for a 41 ft rig and same for your pin weight, I had more pin weight on my 43 ft rig...but I am talking LOADED out for travel wt. So weigh your truck with you and a full tank of fuel, the hook up and weigh with 5th fully loaded for trtavel. You will get, 3 weights, Steering, Drive wheels incl PIN wt and 5th weight. Scales are long and you will see where to place your wheels so everything gets weighed.

Go to Flood ESP plans and price out year mileage and years coverage for Ford Out Year Maintenance Plans. https://www.floodfordesp.com/esp_pla...ubmit=Continue

I am sure you can find same same for RAM and Chevy/GMC , compare. What you are looking the same input = cost. for EXAMPLE: 7 years coverage, 125,000 mi = $X,XXX. The more years and miles give you a better result.

Now compare the 3 with the same data input and resulting costs.

Flood, sells ONLY FORD OEM plans, no gimmicks no TV advertisements, real deal.

So what exactly are you looking at? You are seeing what Ford or other KNOWS their out year costs to be on the truck, FORD knows and they are not going to lose money. What it is an probability of failure chart measured in costs. The out year costs are the expected cost plus profit for Ford. If you an out year plan for $2800, then Ford expect the plan to cost them LESS than 2800 over the out years.

Wife wanted a Range Rover, about $100k, ok if wife is not happy then I KNOW I won't be, but how to talk her out of it. So I went to the dealer and asked out out year maintenance plans. Plan was over $9000 bucks, she changed her British mind!

I do not know what the results would be, I do know the cost for my F 450 diesel 4x4 for Premium Care (everything is covered) 125,000 mi, 6 years is $1960...I see a LOT of reliability in the Ford products!!!

 

kubota(ford) John Deer(ram). Johndeer tractors are full of fancy crap that are expensive to fix. They have motors from many diff manufactures (for the same model) depending on year. They are controlled by a sevice system with its own hotspot and computer, and only the dealer can reset it. Kubota’s are tough as nails and have less of the fancy crap, actually more like a toyota. I had a johndeer 40 hp tractor, it took the service department 3 weeks to identify what make and the engine was(seems there were 3 dif manufactures that year) tractor down a month because of a water pump. That tractor was traded right then, For the big orange.

 

In my 2020 crew cab I have the 40/20/40 split bench in the front, and the vents for the rear seats are under the front seats.

Not sure how well they work as no one ever sits back there.

 

I ownedGMCs from 98 through 2019. No problems. A few minor issues. If I wanted to go to bigger tires it was a major expense. A bit of rust on my 2007 HD pissed me off. I was interested in the alumaduty living up here in the salt belt. And I have a 2017 450 for work that I loved from day one.
Add to that... Fords truck factory is in the U.S.A. the others not so much...
Not to say there arent a bunch of chinese crap parts and things made in Mexico... But the truck was built by American workers.
That was the last bit of the puzzle for me...

 

When we went shopping we were seriously considering a Ram, mostly for the air rear suspension option.
We went to test drive one. Wife didn't like where the headrest touched the back of her head. No adjustments
worked. Never left the dealer lot. Went and placed an order for a F450. If the wife isn't happy no ones happy.
End of story.