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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 12:43 PM
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So, if we can’t believe the media where do we get information? From politicians? We know they never lie from the President on down. Those running for office surely tell the truth all the time. All you have to do is watch 10 minutes of political ads to know that and at this point they are from the same parties going into the Kansas primary.

I’ll take my information from scientists and medical professionals way before those with other agendas. Is it perfect? No and most will acknowledge that, but it is better than from someone with a gut feeling or trying to bend reality to get elected.

I just don’t understand the resistance to wearing a mask when in close proximity to others when in public. Most evidence shows it greatly reduces the spread of covid. Is it 100%? No, but much better than a misplaced idea that wearing one infringes on my “liberty.”
Actually it was reported on the news here, many times, that masks increase the odds of getting it, because they make people touch their face more often.








 
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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uh oh.. this may turn out badly
 
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 08:20 PM
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  • Those who are sick should wear a mask if they must go out. (Ideally, however, those who are sick should stay at home and those confirmed to have COVID-19 should be isolated and cared for in a health facility and their contacts quarantined).
  • Home caregivers should wear a mask to protect themselves and prevent further transmission.
  • Health workers should wear medical masks and use other protective equipment when dealing with suspected or confirmed COVID-19 patients.
What's new:
  • In areas with widespread transmission, the WHO advises medical masks for all people working in clinical areas of a health facility, not only workers dealing with patients with COVID-19. In other words, said the Director General, when doctors are doing a ward round on the cardiology or palliative care units where there are no confirmed COVID-19 patients, they should still wear a medical mask.
  • In areas with community transmission, the WHO now advises that members of the general public aged 60 and older and those with underlying conditions should wear a medical mask in situations where physical distancing is not possible.
  • The general public should wear non-medical masks where there is widespread transmission and when physical distancing is difficult, such as on public transport, in shops or in other confined or crowded environments.
  • Additionally, the WHO has released new guidance on cloth masks, recommending that they consist of at least three layers of different materials: an inner layer being an absorbent material like cotton, a middle layer of non-woven materials such as polypropylene (for the filter) and an outer layer, which is a non absorbent material such as a polyester or a polyester blend.
To develop the guidance, the agency consulted with a range of international experts from different countries and disciplines such as infectious diseases and epidemiology. Their review of a variety of evidence demonstrated some new findings, including that face protections, including respirators or medical masks, can result in a large reduction of transmission of coronaviruses, including COVID-19.

Recommendations, such as those regarding fabric masks, are the result of new research that the WHO commissioned that was not available a month ago. This new evidence, said Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO Technical Lead, has shown that the recommended fabric combination "can actually provide a mechanistic barrier that if someone were infected with COVID-19, you can prevent those droplets from going through and infecting someone."

The above is a later publication from WHO, The quotes from sky cowboy are widely quote by folks not wanting to wear a mask, but they are from March 2, 2020. Those have been replaced by the above and the CDC also recommends wearing a mask.

You don't wear a mask to protect yourself from the disease. You wear one to protect others. My mask doesn't do a great job of protecting me, but it does a pretty good job of protecting you from me. If we both have one on we do a much better job of not passing this darn bug. I still just don't understand the great opposition to wearing one when in close proximity to others, especially inside a building. If I'm working in construction outside and have to work around others and it is 100 degrees, then there may be some issues. Inside Wally World, what is the big problem with manning up and putting one on?

Hell, mine are made out of farmer's hankies. They even look kinda cool on this old geezer. Speaking of that, just a bandana will work. It isn't the best but better than nothing.


 
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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I better not state how I feel about how things are going..
 
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Old Aug 2, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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So basically what I'm seeing all over the US and other places is-- My side is right-- Your side is wrong so I hate you and need to hurt you mentality. Wonder if there is somewhere I can live with decent climate that is generally peaceful?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2020 | 04:16 PM
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F4f.., not speaking for ALL geezers but, i found a little community that is made up of mostly geezers
and 99% of us old folks there are nice, peaceful ,respectful and friendly and armed .
i find , if i don't watch any type of media i don't get caught up in the bs hype. there are lots of places in the
USA that are still relatively free.
the big blue cities...not so much
 
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 07:54 AM
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I have seen alot of those little types of towns-- but work is hard to come by-- (if you approaching geezer status) -- My wife really likes having walmart ect close by-- and 20 miles away having 34 thrift stores :-) I just wish we lived further out of town. I would like a place that I can modify anytime anyway that I want-- park in the grass and not have the city yard police say something-- Someplace easily definable if it came down to it.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flip4ford
I have seen alot of those little types of towns-- but work is hard to come by-- (if you approaching geezer status) -- My wife really likes having walmart ect close by-- and 20 miles away having 34 thrift stores :-) I just wish we lived further out of town. I would like a place that I can modify anytime anyway that I want-- park in the grass and not have the city yard police say something-- Someplace easily definable if it came down to it.
I would really like to move to SE Utah. Maybe a few of could go and set up an off road recovery business.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 08:49 AM
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double edge sword , you want to make big money, live in a big city and cost of living
rises proportionately , guess you have to pick your poison . i've alway been a bit of a simpleton.
1970 moved from oc calif. to what are now ALL overrun with tourists, never had a lot of
money but i have always what i need.

edit; there was life before walmart
 
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 04:52 PM
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Mickey, my next door neighbors moved here from S. Calf. 2 years ago to escape. They love it in spite of KS weather.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 05:40 PM
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Husker, good for them, it's a big step for people to move away from where they grew up when times were fun
and we were more like one people but no more.
i try to hang with like minded people , easier to get through life that way. for me anyway .
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 07:30 AM
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I know a guy who grew up in Mexicali-- has lived in Wichta for 35 years-- and he is still weird.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 07:59 AM
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that's funny...

good morning everyone.... it's FRIDAY
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 09:11 AM
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Happy Friday!!
 
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip4ford
I know a guy who grew up in Mexicali-- has lived in Wichta for 35 years-- and he is still weird.
I grew up 11 miles from Mexicali, yep wierdo here too.



 
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