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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 06:35 PM
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Lights dimming/pulsing

Sorry I’ve been flooding the board so much lately. I’ve owned this truck for 5 years and haven’t had much time to learn and work on it much until now.

Anyways I’m sick of the dimming/pulsing of all the interior and exterior lights. I did the headlight relays today so the headlights are good now... but everything else is still pulsing like crazy. If you’ve followed my other threads my battery is in good shape, new alternator, new voltage regulator... still pulsing. If it was just a-little I’d deal with it but it’s pretty drastic.

What can I do?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 07:11 PM
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Sorry I’ve been flooding the board so much lately. I’ve owned this truck for 5 years and haven’t had much time to learn and work on it much until now.

Anyways I’m sick of the dimming/pulsing of all the interior and exterior lights. I did the headlight relays today so the headlights are good now... but everything else is still pulsing like crazy. If you’ve followed my other threads my battery is in good shape, new alternator, new voltage regulator... still pulsing. If it was just a-little I’d deal with it but it’s pretty drastic.

What can I do?
Is it pulsing all the time? At idle only? At idle in gear? What RPM are you turning now in gear at idle?

Any aftermarket equipment? Lights stereo etc.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 07:14 PM
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I would make sure the regulator was grounded well to the inner fender. Most of the time they have a special ground wire under one of the regulator mounting screws, and if that is missing you could add one and run it over to the battery negative and see if that helps it.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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Is it pulsing all the time? At idle only? At idle in gear? What RPM are you turning now in gear at idle?

Any aftermarket equipment? Lights stereo etc.
Pulsing all the time but it speeds up with rpms. I’m right at 650 rpm at idle in gear.

And yes I do have an amplifier and stereo. But nothing crazy. No subwoofers or anything.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 07:39 PM
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I would make sure the regulator was grounded well to the inner fender. Most of the time they have a special ground wire under one of the regulator mounting screws, and if that is missing you could add one and run it over to the battery negative and see if that helps it.
Hmm I definitely don’t remember any kind of ground wires on the regulator. I don’t remember it even coming with any mounting screws.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 08:54 PM
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Hmm I definitely don’t remember any kind of ground wires on the regulator. I don’t remember it even coming with any mounting screws.

All the time indicates either a faulty regulator or bad grounding, as Dave mentioned. To rule out a grounding issue get a chunk of wire and bridge it between the Alt case and the regulator case make sure both are making good contact on their respective cases. If the pulsing stops it is a grounding issue, not uncommon with electronic regulators especially if the body ground for that fender is bad or missing. The best solution is to run a separate wire from one of the regulators mounting screws to one of the grounding studs for the rectifier bridge on the back of the Alternator. This was never an issue with the old mech regulators cause they either worked or didn't as they used relays instead of electronics.

If the pulsing still happens with the Alt and regulator cases bridged replace the regulator.
Of course, this is assuming the battery cables and it's connections and the Alt and regulator terminations are sound. Cause if they are not and are suspect then they will cause the same issue, pulsing.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 09:04 PM
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Hmm I definitely don’t remember any kind of ground wires on the regulator. I don’t remember it even coming with any mounting screws.
The regulator should be mounted to the fender with 1/4" Course thread screws.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheCoach
Pulsing all the time but it speeds up with rpms. I’m right at 650 rpm at idle in gear.

Pulsing that speeds up with increased RPM? That sounds like a bad diode in your alternator. As previously mentioned, definitely make sure the alternator case and the base of the regulator are well grounded to the battery's negative post.

The following article is from Mercedes, but the test is applicable to almost all vehicles. Even if it all seems like electrical mumbo-jumbo, the test is very simple and only takes a few minutes. For best results, and even though it seems like it wouldn't matter (it does!), take the reading as close to the alternator as possible, not at the battery. A reading of 0.5VAC is the maximum you should see:

Link to AC Ripple Test
 
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
The best solution is to run a separate wire from one of the regulators mounting screws to one of the grounding studs for the rectifier bridge on the back of the Alternator. This was never an issue with the old mech regulators cause they either worked or didn't as they used relays instead of electronics.
They did with mechanical regulators for Generators, Ford eventually ended up running a dedicated wire from the regulator base to the "G" terminal on the Generator itself to solve the regulator "seeing" a different ground potential. Clean tight low resistance grounds and connections is always important, or it will cripple charging and starting, lights, ignition, and accessories. The regulator will get confused by excess resistance and think the battery is charged to 100%, when it is actually low.

A set of jumper cables or heavy wire would be useful for testing. Try grounding the alternator case directly to the negative battery terminal, regulator base to either/both etc. Rust and corrosion is a big problem in old trucks, paint on mating surfaces in restored examples. Starters and alternators are prone to that. Pulsing lights is by definition a regulation problem, it would have to be a pretty wide voltage spread.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 01:53 PM
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All the time indicates either a faulty regulator or bad grounding, as Dave mentioned. To rule out a grounding issue get a chunk of wire and bridge it between the Alt case and the regulator case make sure both are making good contact on their respective cases. If the pulsing stops it is a grounding issue, not uncommon with electronic regulators especially if the body ground for that fender is bad or missing. The best solution is to run a separate wire from one of the regulators mounting screws to one of the grounding studs for the rectifier bridge on the back of the Alternator. This was never an issue with the old mech regulators cause they either worked or didn't as they used relays instead of electronics.

If the pulsing still happens with the Alt and regulator cases bridged replace the regulator.
Of course, this is assuming the battery cables and it's connections and the Alt and regulator terminations are sound. Cause if they are not and are suspect then they will cause the same issue, pulsing.
Ok when you say grounding studs on rectifier bridge... is that one of the empty screws on the back of the alternator?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 02:33 PM
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Sooo I THINK I just had a poor connection on the plug going into the regulator. It was a little loose and dirty. Blew it out and put it back and my charging gauge stopped dancing. I’ll have to wait until later to verify the lights and pulsing is gone. Hard to tell in the middle of the day. Now wondering just how many of my issues were caused by a potential loose connection.

UPDATE: Confirmed, no more pulsing. Connection is still looser than I’d like. Need to figure out a way to jimmy rig it so it doesn’t bounce around. Maybe a zip tie around the regulator and plug itself to keep it tight?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 08:43 PM
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I have used the zip tie around a plug before and it worked great, only thing I would do is make sure you keep a way to cut that zip tie in case you need to remove it suddenly.
 
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You could try one of these.

https://www.repairconnector.com/cate...OR-CONNECTORS/
 
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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Nice! Will do...

Got anything on that other plug im looking for? The one that has 6 wires for all rear lighting?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 07:24 AM
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Was it you I sent this link to? Or was it someone else? If it's not in this catalog I am not sure where you could get it.

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/pu...torcatalog.pdf
 
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