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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 05:38 PM
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As many issues as we have with no end in sight, we still have freedoms worth fighting for.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 08:25 PM
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As many issues as we have with no end in sight, we still have freedoms worth fighting for.
Spot on, dead nutz and 110%...
 
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 10:42 PM
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Spot on, dead nutz and 110%...
Agreed, America!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 05:53 AM
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GOD BLESS AMERICA !

And the ones who have & still service , at home and a far.
I saw a bumper sticker the other day saying " You are entitled to your opinion and free speech but the minute you Disrespect OUR flag by Spitting, stomping ,or setting on fire I'll teach you what it means to be the enemy ! " 🇺🇸💪🏻
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 07:23 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
In my locality which effects about 8 million in a city radius , we have always had emissions testing of both gas and diesel , so a nation wide crack down is nothing new as this crack down has always been in place in my locality.

Keep in mind, fence height is regulated, shed size is regulated, the paper roll cap guns we all had back in the 60’s and 70’s will get you arrested today, pocket knives longer than 3” will get you arrested , etc.

police walk every street and visually check each inspection sticker for expiration.

detached trailers is a violation

regulation, regulation, regulation


it’s all about revenue generation and adding to the complexity of government.

i was going to sell and head to the hills , but regulation is sneaking into those areas as well .

Really? Holy crap. Too much government.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by StanleyZ
Really? Holy crap. Too much government.
You think that's bad, it's based off the CARB laws I'd imagine. Read the links I posted to see how bad Cali has gotten. That will blow yer mind.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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You think that's bad, it's based off the CARB laws I'd imagine. Read the links I posted to see how bad Cali has gotten. That will blow yer mind.
I wasn't talking about the emmisions. In ATL we have that for gassers. I was talking about the other stuff, sheds, fences, knives, detached trailers and cap guns. That is more regulation than we would ever put up with. Y'all need some new politicians. lol
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by StanleyZ
I wasn't talking about the emmisions. In ATL we have that for gassers. I was talking about the other stuff, sheds, fences, knives, detached trailers and cap guns. That is more regulation than we would ever put up with. Y'all need some new politicians. lol
Oh don't worry Stan, all our liberals are moving down south to change your demographics and politics. My cousin is one who has been down south for awhile now. Listen to talk radio. They talk about this stuff all the time. It's happening in Texas and other states as well, unfortunately.

About the my state's politicians, tell me something that my conservative friends and I don't KNOW. And which it boils down to is that my wife and I down the line need a new state to move to.

Let's just say I possess some things that would make me an outlaw, don't cha know?
 

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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 05:40 PM
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Oh don't worry Stan, all our liberals are moving down south to change your demographics and politics. My cousin is one who has been down south for awhile now. Listen to talk radio. They talk about this stuff all the time. It's happening in Texas and other states as well, unfortunately.

About the my state's politicians, tell me something that my conservative friends and don't KNOW. And which it boils down to is that my wife and I down the line need a new state to move to.

Let's just say I possess some things that would make me an outlaw, don't cha know?

😁 the F stands for FUDGE ....LOL
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 07:10 PM
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I'll sum it up with this...

 
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Old Oct 13, 2019 | 04:38 PM
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Another thing to keep in mind here during these trying times is the constant bombardment of our Goggle feeds, news channels and other media outlets of this so called "climate emergency" by our progressive friends on the left. Nobody wants polluted air or water. Everyone wants to pitch in to keep the environment, especially our country, clean for generations to come.

While we want cleaner vehicles to maintain a clean environment, the fact is that all this new enforcement and attitude towards petroleum vehicles are based on propaganda and projections based on biased weather models.

I only bring this up because yet another doom and gloom opinion piece came across my Google feed. This is why there is such an emotional attachment to the fight against our beloved diesel engines, trucks and industry. It appears that the good old days are gone.

https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...e-emergency%2F
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 11:05 AM
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So Stewart did answer my email. Here's what I sent:

I own a 2016 F350 6.7 Powerstroke. It's stock with emissions. I want to thank you explaining things and giving your insights into what you believe will be happening. I am happy with my stock truck. My driving/use keeps the emissions functioning thankfully, especially with what's going on currently. I do have the Banks new Derringer Tuner on my radar as I already have the iDash 1.8 digital monitor. I live in New York state where they have adopted the CARB laws. But I believe that only applies to the NYC/surrounding areas due to population density. I have a few questions if you don't mind.


Number one, where do you see this headed when it comes to individual truck owners? I belong to ford-trucks.com. There is a lot of speculation about what will happen to the newer trucks/owners that are already deleted and tuned. I have been speculating that the EPA will possibly force enforcement on each state by withholding highway funds (etc.) to make them enforce the Clean Air Act with their state police.


Number two, you talked about mods like a cold air intake. If the CAI has a CARB EO number, does that make it legal to use? I am looking at either the Banks or S&B intakes. I believe both have CARB numbers.


I also feel that this will force the diesel industry to adapt, improvise and overcome. They will have to or else they will be out of business. But like you said, there are very smart people in this industry. They will rise to the occasion. This is a win win for all including the OEMs. When the tuning guys come up with more clean, legal power, I'm sure OEMs will want a piece as the HP wars continue into this new age.


Once again, thank you for your discussion and thanks for reading this. I look forward to your response. Take care,


Dave D.




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Hi Dave, thanks for the email. First, if ANY part has a CARB EO number, it is "50-state legal." I didn't get the chance to mention this on the podcast. I already see the industry (ATS, Banks, etc.) moving in the direction of getting EOs to certify their emissions-compliant status. The safest way to make sure the part you're purchasing is compliant is to see if it's got a CARB EO Number.

Regarding your other question, there has been nothing I've seen that's happened to a "regular guy" who has a deleted truck directly from EPA. I have seen state emissions authorities and testing facilities fail to pass vehicles, forcing their owners to return them to stock, and I have seen shops refuse to work on vehicles which have been deleted (as they are required to do, by law), but I think at this point EPA is relying on individual states to enforce on end users. Frankly, I think EPA will continue to focus on the manufacturers, retailers, and installers of the offending products and hope that trickles down to the end users.


Hope this is helpful!

Stewart D. Cables


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Thanks for getting back to me so soon. Yes, this helps a lot. I really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to respond to me. I guess we really won't know what each individual state does for enforcement on individual deleted trucks and if the EPA will expect, influence or require more rigorous enforcement of them. Time will tell. Thanks again. Have a good week. I'd love to hear about your 04 Duramax and what you've done to it one day on the Podcast.

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So it appears that the EPA is not gunning for the individual truck owners but each state that has the strict emissions mandates will be the ones enforcing for now. A comment that Stan Z and Bohen said has me thinking about acquiring a device for possible future use, for "having and not needing..." for now...and checking out Ebay and buying under a pseudo account. Time will tell. I also know a guy local who a friend of mine gave his card. I've been meaning to go talk to him and see what he says. My friend also has his old devices from his last truck. You always have to have options. A plan "B" is always needed.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
So Stewart did answer my email. Here's what I sent:

I own a 2016 F350 6.7 Powerstroke. It's stock with emissions. I want to thank you explaining things and giving your insights into what you believe will be happening. I am happy with my stock truck. My driving/use keeps the emissions functioning thankfully, especially with what's going on currently. I do have the Banks new Derringer Tuner on my radar as I already have the iDash 1.8 digital monitor. I live in New York state where they have adopted the CARB laws. But I believe that only applies to the NYC/surrounding areas due to population density. I have a few questions if you don't mind.


Number one, where do you see this headed when it comes to individual truck owners? I belong to ford-trucks.com. There is a lot of speculation about what will happen to the newer trucks/owners that are already deleted and tuned. I have been speculating that the EPA will possibly force enforcement on each state by withholding highway funds (etc.) to make them enforce the Clean Air Act with their state police.


Number two, you talked about mods like a cold air intake. If the CAI has a CARB EO number, does that make it legal to use? I am looking at either the Banks or S&B intakes. I believe both have CARB numbers.


I also feel that this will force the diesel industry to adapt, improvise and overcome. They will have to or else they will be out of business. But like you said, there are very smart people in this industry. They will rise to the occasion. This is a win win for all including the OEMs. When the tuning guys come up with more clean, legal power, I'm sure OEMs will want a piece as the HP wars continue into this new age.


Once again, thank you for your discussion and thanks for reading this. I look forward to your response. Take care,


Dave D.




His response:


Hi Dave, thanks for the email. First, if ANY part has a CARB EO number, it is "50-state legal." I didn't get the chance to mention this on the podcast. I already see the industry (ATS, Banks, etc.) moving in the direction of getting EOs to certify their emissions-compliant status. The safest way to make sure the part you're purchasing is compliant is to see if it's got a CARB EO Number.

Regarding your other question, there has been nothing I've seen that's happened to a "regular guy" who has a deleted truck directly from EPA. I have seen state emissions authorities and testing facilities fail to pass vehicles, forcing their owners to return them to stock, and I have seen shops refuse to work on vehicles which have been deleted (as they are required to do, by law), but I think at this point EPA is relying on individual states to enforce on end users. Frankly, I think EPA will continue to focus on the manufacturers, retailers, and installers of the offending products and hope that trickles down to the end users.


Hope this is helpful!

Stewart D. Cables


My response back:



Thanks for getting back to me so soon. Yes, this helps a lot. I really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to respond to me. I guess we really won't know what each individual state does for enforcement on individual deleted trucks and if the EPA will expect, influence or require more rigorous enforcement of them. Time will tell. Thanks again. Have a good week. I'd love to hear about your 04 Duramax and what you've done to it one day on the Podcast.

************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** *******************


So it appears that the EPA is not gunning for the individual truck owners but each state that has the strict emissions mandates will be the ones enforcing for now. A comment that Stan Z and Bohen said has me thinking about acquiring a device for possible future use, for "having and not needing..." for now...and checking out Ebay and buying under a pseudo account. Time will tell. I also know a guy local who a friend of mine gave his card. I've been meaning to go talk to him and see what he says. My friend also has his old devices from his last truck. You always have to have options. A plan "B" is always needed.

I know I know a little early but still...
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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I think the government should stick to overtaxing and generally screwing the people. And let the automotive engineers decide what's best for automotive engineering. As a retired 43 year OTR trucker, I laughed when I heard "rumors" that the government would require putting soot back into an engine. We were testing several engine manufacturers at the time. Detroit and Cummins said they could meet emissions standards using an exhaust gas recirculater valve (EGR A.K.A soot back into the engine) Caterpillar could meet the emissions standards using a catalytic convertor. The government told Caterpillar that they must meet standards with an EGR. Caterpillar told the government they would no longer be building road engines. VERY NICE CAT! Unfortunately, Caterpillar apparently couldn't make enough money building just off-road engines and they started making road engines again. As a personal note: I owned a 2006 350 Super Duty with a 6.0 Power Stroke which I bouhgt new. I couldnt get over 12 mpg no matter how much I babied it. The EGR valve went bad. I was looking at a very large bill to replace the EGR valve. I opted instead for a $250 installed EGR delete kit. I then had no problem getting 17 mpg. Hmmmm?
 
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