What's next?
GOD BLESS AMERICA !
And the ones who have & still service , at home and a far.
I saw a bumper sticker the other day saying " You are entitled to your opinion and free speech but the minute you Disrespect OUR flag by Spitting, stomping ,or setting on fire I'll teach you what it means to be the enemy ! " 🇺🇸💪🏻
Keep in mind, fence height is regulated, shed size is regulated, the paper roll cap guns we all had back in the 60’s and 70’s will get you arrested today, pocket knives longer than 3” will get you arrested , etc.
police walk every street and visually check each inspection sticker for expiration.
detached trailers is a violation
regulation, regulation, regulation
it’s all about revenue generation and adding to the complexity of government.
i was going to sell and head to the hills , but regulation is sneaking into those areas as well .
Really? Holy crap. Too much government.
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About the my state's politicians, tell me something that my conservative friends and I don't KNOW. And which it boils down to is that my wife and I down the line need a new state to move to.
Let's just say I possess some things that would make me an outlaw, don't cha know?
Last edited by Overkill2; Oct 11, 2019 at 05:34 PM. Reason: Add to post
About the my state's politicians, tell me something that my conservative friends and don't KNOW. And which it boils down to is that my wife and I down the line need a new state to move to.
Let's just say I possess some things that would make me an outlaw, don't cha know?

😁 the F stands for FUDGE ....LOL
While we want cleaner vehicles to maintain a clean environment, the fact is that all this new enforcement and attitude towards petroleum vehicles are based on propaganda and projections based on biased weather models.
I only bring this up because yet another doom and gloom opinion piece came across my Google feed. This is why there is such an emotional attachment to the fight against our beloved diesel engines, trucks and industry. It appears that the good old days are gone.
https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...e-emergency%2F
I own a 2016 F350 6.7 Powerstroke. It's stock with emissions. I want to thank you explaining things and giving your insights into what you believe will be happening. I am happy with my stock truck. My driving/use keeps the emissions functioning thankfully, especially with what's going on currently. I do have the Banks new Derringer Tuner on my radar as I already have the iDash 1.8 digital monitor. I live in New York state where they have adopted the CARB laws. But I believe that only applies to the NYC/surrounding areas due to population density. I have a few questions if you don't mind.
Number one, where do you see this headed when it comes to individual truck owners? I belong to ford-trucks.com. There is a lot of speculation about what will happen to the newer trucks/owners that are already deleted and tuned. I have been speculating that the EPA will possibly force enforcement on each state by withholding highway funds (etc.) to make them enforce the Clean Air Act with their state police.
Number two, you talked about mods like a cold air intake. If the CAI has a CARB EO number, does that make it legal to use? I am looking at either the Banks or S&B intakes. I believe both have CARB numbers.
I also feel that this will force the diesel industry to adapt, improvise and overcome. They will have to or else they will be out of business. But like you said, there are very smart people in this industry. They will rise to the occasion. This is a win win for all including the OEMs. When the tuning guys come up with more clean, legal power, I'm sure OEMs will want a piece as the HP wars continue into this new age.
Once again, thank you for your discussion and thanks for reading this. I look forward to your response. Take care,
Dave D.
His response:
Hi Dave, thanks for the email. First, if ANY part has a CARB EO number, it is "50-state legal." I didn't get the chance to mention this on the podcast. I already see the industry (ATS, Banks, etc.) moving in the direction of getting EOs to certify their emissions-compliant status. The safest way to make sure the part you're purchasing is compliant is to see if it's got a CARB EO Number.
Regarding your other question, there has been nothing I've seen that's happened to a "regular guy" who has a deleted truck directly from EPA. I have seen state emissions authorities and testing facilities fail to pass vehicles, forcing their owners to return them to stock, and I have seen shops refuse to work on vehicles which have been deleted (as they are required to do, by law), but I think at this point EPA is relying on individual states to enforce on end users. Frankly, I think EPA will continue to focus on the manufacturers, retailers, and installers of the offending products and hope that trickles down to the end users.
Hope this is helpful!
Stewart D. Cables
My response back:
Thanks for getting back to me so soon. Yes, this helps a lot. I really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to respond to me. I guess we really won't know what each individual state does for enforcement on individual deleted trucks and if the EPA will expect, influence or require more rigorous enforcement of them. Time will tell. Thanks again. Have a good week. I'd love to hear about your 04 Duramax and what you've done to it one day on the Podcast.
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So it appears that the EPA is not gunning for the individual truck owners but each state that has the strict emissions mandates will be the ones enforcing for now. A comment that Stan Z and Bohen said has me thinking about acquiring a device for possible future use, for "having and not needing..." for now...and checking out Ebay and buying under a pseudo account. Time will tell. I also know a guy local who a friend of mine gave his card. I've been meaning to go talk to him and see what he says. My friend also has his old devices from his last truck. You always have to have options. A plan "B" is always needed.
I own a 2016 F350 6.7 Powerstroke. It's stock with emissions. I want to thank you explaining things and giving your insights into what you believe will be happening. I am happy with my stock truck. My driving/use keeps the emissions functioning thankfully, especially with what's going on currently. I do have the Banks new Derringer Tuner on my radar as I already have the iDash 1.8 digital monitor. I live in New York state where they have adopted the CARB laws. But I believe that only applies to the NYC/surrounding areas due to population density. I have a few questions if you don't mind.
Number one, where do you see this headed when it comes to individual truck owners? I belong to ford-trucks.com. There is a lot of speculation about what will happen to the newer trucks/owners that are already deleted and tuned. I have been speculating that the EPA will possibly force enforcement on each state by withholding highway funds (etc.) to make them enforce the Clean Air Act with their state police.
Number two, you talked about mods like a cold air intake. If the CAI has a CARB EO number, does that make it legal to use? I am looking at either the Banks or S&B intakes. I believe both have CARB numbers.
I also feel that this will force the diesel industry to adapt, improvise and overcome. They will have to or else they will be out of business. But like you said, there are very smart people in this industry. They will rise to the occasion. This is a win win for all including the OEMs. When the tuning guys come up with more clean, legal power, I'm sure OEMs will want a piece as the HP wars continue into this new age.
Once again, thank you for your discussion and thanks for reading this. I look forward to your response. Take care,
Dave D.
His response:
Hi Dave, thanks for the email. First, if ANY part has a CARB EO number, it is "50-state legal." I didn't get the chance to mention this on the podcast. I already see the industry (ATS, Banks, etc.) moving in the direction of getting EOs to certify their emissions-compliant status. The safest way to make sure the part you're purchasing is compliant is to see if it's got a CARB EO Number.
Regarding your other question, there has been nothing I've seen that's happened to a "regular guy" who has a deleted truck directly from EPA. I have seen state emissions authorities and testing facilities fail to pass vehicles, forcing their owners to return them to stock, and I have seen shops refuse to work on vehicles which have been deleted (as they are required to do, by law), but I think at this point EPA is relying on individual states to enforce on end users. Frankly, I think EPA will continue to focus on the manufacturers, retailers, and installers of the offending products and hope that trickles down to the end users.
Hope this is helpful!
Stewart D. Cables
My response back:
Thanks for getting back to me so soon. Yes, this helps a lot. I really appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to respond to me. I guess we really won't know what each individual state does for enforcement on individual deleted trucks and if the EPA will expect, influence or require more rigorous enforcement of them. Time will tell. Thanks again. Have a good week. I'd love to hear about your 04 Duramax and what you've done to it one day on the Podcast.
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** *******************
So it appears that the EPA is not gunning for the individual truck owners but each state that has the strict emissions mandates will be the ones enforcing for now. A comment that Stan Z and Bohen said has me thinking about acquiring a device for possible future use, for "having and not needing..." for now...and checking out Ebay and buying under a pseudo account. Time will tell. I also know a guy local who a friend of mine gave his card. I've been meaning to go talk to him and see what he says. My friend also has his old devices from his last truck. You always have to have options. A plan "B" is always needed.
I know I know a little early but still...









