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Old May 25, 2019 | 11:59 AM
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Down at the bottom it says they do..holy confusion!! 4wheel parts says they do not as well...

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Diamond cut multi-leaf springs with urethane bushings provide additional clearance and improved ride quality // Rear Leaf Springs; 4 in. Lift; Sold As A Pair

Lol, they must be on the might-could program. Supposed to be in at the end of next week. Will let ya know how that plays out.
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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That’s odd, just ordered mine, and it said they did not. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Yeah that's gotta be a misprint. I ordered mine from a different supplier through Amazon. It's in the product description. BTW my order was 265.00 total free shipping. That was 2 22415 springs.
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 12:48 PM
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Driver side thick end the wedge

Passenger side from rear you can see thicker end.

Pass side fat side to the rear
Update on the install. I went back and added the 2* shims to my springs to add positive castor. There's significant improvement in self centering. My truck already has new ball joints, tie rod ends, and a Red Head box. It didn't have the "wandering and skittish" issues. It would go wherever you pointed it...….and keep going that way until input at wheel the changed it. Now there is a modest resistance as the steering will come back to center on it's own. Just enough road feel. A thumb and Index finger affair. All sway bars are disconnected. I'll drive it that way for while.
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Where did you install the shims? Pics my man..pics!!
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by agsmv1
Down at the bottom it says they do..holy confusion!! 4wheel parts says they do not as well...

Product description

Diamond cut multi-leaf springs with urethane bushings provide additional clearance and improved ride quality // Rear Leaf Springs; 4 in. Lift; Sold As A Pair



ProComps Jibberiesh dept did a bang up job on the product description, I have even seen ads saying they are p[owder coated…lol no wonder they are so popular

bla bla bla nonsense aside the technical specs I got from the engineers that designed them and not the jibberish debt, so at least we know the important stuff is correct.
 
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Old May 26, 2019 | 12:04 PM
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I need clarification on the shims. The fat side goes on the front side of the leafs for both the front and rear springs right? Thank you.
 
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Old May 26, 2019 | 12:28 PM
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I need clarification on the shims. The fat side goes on the front side of the leafs for both the front and rear springs right? Thank you.
NO.

front axle. you want to increase Positive caster. to do that you want to roll the pinion down which would require the Fat part of the wedge to face the rear of the vehicle.

rear axle depends on which type of drive shaft you have.

for a Non-CV type you want to make the pinion shaft parellel with the Tcase output shaft so roll the pinion down by putting the fat part of the wedge facing the front of the vehicle
 
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Old May 26, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
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front axle. you want to increase Positive caster. to do that you want to roll the pinion down which would require the Fat part of the wedge to face the rear of the vehicle.

rear axle depends on which type of drive shaft you have.

for a Non-CV type you want to make the pinion shaft parellel with the Tcase output shaft so roll the pinion down by putting the fat part of the wedge facing the front of the vehicle


I’m going to say non CV right?
 
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Old May 26, 2019 | 12:48 PM
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This is what the Double Cardan U joint looks like on the Ex. (CV) This is the front of the driveshaft at the Transfer Case
 
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Old May 26, 2019 | 12:55 PM
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The is the rear of the driveshaft at the Diff. Notice the straight working angle.

 
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Old May 26, 2019 | 02:17 PM
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I’m going to say non CV right?

correct. non cv or just “single joint both ends”
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 04:40 PM
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The is the rear of the driveshaft at the Diff. Notice the straight working angle.
So is that driveshaft backwards, mine has that joint at the transfer case.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dualwheels66
So is that driveshaft backwards, mine has that joint at the transfer case.
No that driveshaft is not backwards. The Double Cardan(CV) is at the output of the T case, and the single u joint is at the Differential. From what I understand Ford switched to this configuration sometime during production. I don't know what years. Maybe someone can tell us.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
for anybody following along here are the basic parts I use to do this 4" lift on the Excursion not counting the Air bag, top plate tang or Dystar air bag craddle
I suppose I should add those links to my list.

Zone adjustable Track Bar $100

https://www.amazon.com/Zone-Offroad-.../dp/B0025ZMFJC

Bilsteins 5100 shocks

Front $180 pair

https://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-3318.../dp/B00DRYS0GW

Rear $156

https://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-33-2.../dp/B00IL8BN0E

Ubolts

Front $54

https://www.wfoconcepts.com/<acronym title="Page Ranking">pr</acronym>/Front-U-Bolt-Kits/19732/16883

Rear 8’’Ubolts x 3.5” round $47

https://www.wfoconcepts.com/<acronym title="Page Ranking">pr</acronym>/WFO-Individual-U-Bolt-Kits/19732/16924

3’ Spring Plate rear $38 pair

https://www.wfoconcepts.com/<acronym title="Page Ranking">pr</acronym>/3-Leaf-Spring-Plate-Ford/16828/17035

Front 3’ wide 2* shim $35 pair

Rear 3” wide 2* shim $35 pair

https://www.wfoconcepts.com/cr/3-Inch-Axle-Shims/4384

Pirate, can you do the procomp lift without the longer track bar?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by uwaidye
Pirate, can you do the procomp lift without the longer track bar?
Not recommended because the axle will be off center and the springs run against the hanger.
 
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