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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wicked 2018
No this is:







My frankenlift setup:

2.5" Fox Shocks with DSC (all 4 corners)
Lewis Built Adjustable Track Bar
Lewis Built Adjustable Radius Arms
17" Walker Evans 501 Rims
37" Toyo Open Country MT (12.5" wide)
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.5" metal lift spacer
All wheel wells measure within 1/4" of each other
No rubbing or trimming
Stock springs in rear
Very cool!
Are the ride and handling still good?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sky Cowboy
Very cool!
Are the ride and handling still good?
As mentioned a few post back - rides better than stock. Bump steer was 100% improved with the lift and now adding the Fox ATS its virtually gone.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ExtremeDuty
That is a great question... ??
Yeah I don't think anyone knows what has actually been changed if anything on the line with trucks built after that date.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 07:44 PM
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Took my truck in today for a mini "death wobble". Judging by the look on the technicians face when he came back, he wasn't ready for that, lol. They found my steering stabilizer was "froze" and didn't move anymore. Let's see how it drives tomorrow.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 12:31 PM
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I experienced the death wobble a few days ago at 70 mph in my 2017 F-250 4WD. 34,2xx miles it and it's bone stock. . I was in a construction area that had traffic lanes diverted to the left and ran across 30-40 yards of rumble bars that started the wobble. I dropped the truck off at the dealer today to have it looked at and they were aware of the TSB. I plan to buy a Pro Comp steering stabilizer. Pro Comp seems to be the only company that makes a steering stabilizer that fits a non-lifted F250. I may replace the front shocks with Bilsteins at some point.

My truck is a pavement princess except for one trip up Bachelor Loop in Creed, Colorado last year.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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Took my ‘17 in today
crew cab, short bed
4x4, 6.2 liter

All stock with just under 13,000 miles. Started with shimmy when crossing expansion joint on the way to work. Then hit a good size crack on the interstate this past Saturday at 70 mph, it started to shake and got so bad I thought the front end was coming off the truck. Not fun.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 01:01 PM
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I had a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee that developed death wobble at around 300,000 miles; it was also about 13 years old. If I hit one of those tar ridges with both wheels at the same time while over 45 mph, if felt like the entire front end was going to fall out. If I hit that same bump at a slight angle - first one wheel then the other wheel - I could go over it at any speed with no ill effects.
The front suspension of that Jeep is very similar to the Super Duty. So, yes, the SD is susceptible to death wobble, as is any live solid axle vehicle, but not really prone to it. There has to be some kind of damage or wear to the components to make it happen. Fear of DW in a new truck is unwarranted.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 01:37 PM
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Fear of DW in a new truck is unwarranted.
heres my question. how can the front end wear out in 30k miles and the truck never leaves the pavement. do these front end just have cheap crap parts ?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
heres my question. how can the front end wear out in 30k miles and the truck never leaves the pavement. do these front end just have cheap crap parts ?
this is what i believe alot of it stems from. I have 3 steering joints on my truck with opvious play. Ford replaced the worst one and deemed the other two within tollerance. Within 500 miles the replaced part started to show excessive slop and my front end chatter returned. Ford deemed it within tolerance, and told me “thats just how they are.” My struck is a front tire wobbling turd when i hit bumps. Makes me nervous.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
heres my question. how can the front end wear out in 30k miles and the truck never leaves the pavement. do these front end just have cheap crap parts ?
Most of the roads in this country are pretty crappy. Lots of pot holes, cracks, and heaves. Front ends take a beating in my area. But I've never experienced the death wobble.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 07:49 PM
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First death wobble today! 16,000 miles. Not happy
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Mckowen
First death wobble today! 16,000 miles. Not happy
Make sure you report the issue, the more official reports there are the more likely Ford will be forced to address the issue and not just throw parts at it till we are out of warranty.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:05 PM
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This is crazy. There is no excuse for new truck to be seeing DW. Wondering where in the heck they are getting the parts for these trucks? And what caster settings they are using. People bad-mouth dodge for quality control, but these stories reek of ****-poor QC. And dangerous parts for the front ends too.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by llmflyfisher
This is crazy. There is no excuse for new truck to be seeing DW. Wondering where in the heck they are getting the parts for these trucks? And what caster settings they are using. People bad-mouth dodge for quality control, but these stories reek of ****-poor QC. And dangerous parts for the front ends too.
The parts are fine, it only takes a minute amount of play, even play from tie rods breaking in over the course of 10K miles, for death wobble to occur.

And after the wobble occurs is when people check the parts. Death wobble destroys parts quite easily in a short while.

The problem is caster, Dana had a new center section for the 2017 and up trucks. If the jig was off a fraction of a degree, you will get death wobble. Ford has no caster correction in the radius arms to adjust, only bj bushings.

Even with the issues Ford is having with death wobble (which I'm not a part of) on a new generation, you couldn't pay me to own another RAM after my experience with them.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by llmflyfisher
This is crazy. There is no excuse for new truck to be seeing DW. Wondering where in the heck they are getting the parts for these trucks? And what caster settings they are using. People bad-mouth dodge for quality control, but these stories reek of ****-poor QC. And dangerous parts for the front ends too.
The parts are fine, it only takes a minute amount of play, even play from tie rods breaking in over the course of 10K miles, for death wobble to occur.

And after the wobble occurs is when people check the parts. Death wobble destroys parts quite easily in a short while.

The problem is caster, Dana had a new center section for the 2017 and up trucks. If the jig was off a fraction of a degree, you will get death wobble. Ford has no caster correction in the radius arms to adjust, only bj bushings.

Even with the issues Ford is having with death wobble (which I'm not a part of) on a new generation, you couldn't pay me to own another RAM after my experience with them.


ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!
 
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