'07 axles under the '01 Excursion - Conversion Thread
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@Nicmike the 2008 master cylinder that you used, did that simply bolt up to the original Ex hydroboost? Did the pushrod or anything need adjusting?
Was the final conclusion that the later model larger front rotors and calipers would NOT bolt on to the 05-08 axle. And you would need knew steering knuckles to make that happen?
@Dan V you mentioned that you are using a 2015 steering gear. What did you have to do to make that later model steering gear work in your conversion?
Was the final conclusion that the later model larger front rotors and calipers would NOT bolt on to the 05-08 axle. And you would need knew steering knuckles to make that happen?
@Dan V you mentioned that you are using a 2015 steering gear. What did you have to do to make that later model steering gear work in your conversion?
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@Dan V you mentioned that you are using a 2015 steering gear. What did you have to do to make that later model steering gear work in your conversion?
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@Dan V thank you for your quick and detailed response. You may have posted it above somewhere (but I couldn't find it quickly), what year front axle are you using? Which year trac bar mount? Which year front sway bar? Does the drag link from the 05+ axles work with your 15 steering gear?
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Are there any more details about the 1.5" master cylinder to use? I think this thread says to use one from an 08. I was looking at Rock Auto, there are quite a few options to choose from.
@Dan V what year track bar mount did you use?
@Dan V what year track bar mount did you use?
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I believe you are correct about the 05-07 track bar mounts. It's odd, for some reason there aren't any used ones that I am finding on the net, including ebay.
I was able to get the upper and lower steering shafts and steering gear from a 2015. So I will be doing that mod as well. (Thanks for that info @Dan V
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There was talk that some master cylinders are bubble flare and others have the double flare. I am not sure how accurate the photos are on the Rock Auto site, but here is what I have observed. Please correct me if my observations are not accurate.
2008 Cardone MC with tow package.
2008 Cardone MC without tow package
With tow package looks to be double flare.
Without tow package appears to be bubble.
2008 Cardone MC with tow package.
2008 Cardone MC without tow package
With tow package looks to be double flare.
Without tow package appears to be bubble.
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I sourced my MC at a local salvage yard for $25.
To be honest...I love to drive this truck now. I liked it before, but the combo of the coil ride, tighter turning radius and the brakes...it's just a win all the way around.
To be honest...I love to drive this truck now. I liked it before, but the combo of the coil ride, tighter turning radius and the brakes...it's just a win all the way around.
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I was just at a wrecking yard today. They wanted $80 for a 2008 master cylinder with lord only knows how many miles on it. I told them they could keep it. Welcome to Los Angeles. Sometimes, it seems like the junkyards around here demand more money than a new part.
I am looking forward to doing my conversion.
I have a 2015 rear axle. Still looking for a VSS / ABS sensor solution since it has the e locker and the wheel sensors are at each wheel instead of the ring gear.
I am looking forward to doing my conversion.
I have a 2015 rear axle. Still looking for a VSS / ABS sensor solution since it has the e locker and the wheel sensors are at each wheel instead of the ring gear.
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@Nicmike the 2008 master cylinder that you used, did that simply bolt up to the original Ex hydroboost? Did the pushrod or anything need adjusting?
Was the final conclusion that the later model larger front rotors and calipers would NOT bolt on to the 05-08 axle. And you would need knew steering knuckles to make that happen?
@Dan V you mentioned that you are using a 2015 steering gear. What did you have to do to make that later model steering gear work in your conversion?
Was the final conclusion that the later model larger front rotors and calipers would NOT bolt on to the 05-08 axle. And you would need knew steering knuckles to make that happen?
@Dan V you mentioned that you are using a 2015 steering gear. What did you have to do to make that later model steering gear work in your conversion?
If you mean 13 and up rotors and calipers, NO THEY WILL NOT BOLT ON to an 05-12 axle setup. It goes beyond needing new steering knuckles...
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Didn't you also have to do some new flaring and different nuts that fit into the 08 master cylinder?
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I had to re-flare the lines after cutting off my old hardware, and I installed the hardware/nuts that came with the '08 unit. Lines were the same size. Take some tubing cutters with you to the salvage yard, and get a few inches of the old lines and the flare nuts with the unit. The flare nuts on your old one will not work. New MCs use metric fittings...older ones were SAE.
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I might have missed it in this thread, if so, my apologies for asking.
Front axle - are you able to keep the donor axles brake hoses and hard lines and simply connect the center brake hose from your vehicle? Or did you use the center brake hose on the donor axle? or some other scenario?
thank you
Front axle - are you able to keep the donor axles brake hoses and hard lines and simply connect the center brake hose from your vehicle? Or did you use the center brake hose on the donor axle? or some other scenario?
thank you