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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 09:45 PM
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Shifter came out!

I have a 1969 f-250 camper special with a 360 and 4 speed on the floor. I was driving it after finally getting it running and all of a sudden I had to fight it to try and get it to go into 3rd, then moments later the shifter came completely out of the trans. After further inspection I found that the channels in the metal cap that allows that shifter to stay in had sheered off. I fixed the cap however a cannot seem to get the shifter to find and gears now. What am I missing here?
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 08:59 AM
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These 4spd np435 trannys this is one of there weak areas that craps out.

The shift stick ball locking ball cup collars an the shift stick pin grooves wears out.

There's there is a kit I got from a rebuilder that came with:
1. A stick shift ball seal.
2. A retainer shift stick ball cup.
3. A shift stick cup spring.

This was back in the 90's when I rebuilt the upper shift retainer receiver.
I also had the shift stick ball grooves welded up an recut the side pins grooves
for the pins with a file an a dremel tool.

I have since gone to a 5 spd o/d tranny
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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Yeah I was debating whether or not to use the Dremel on the cap to make the grooves like you said. I will look into that kit for sure. I managed to fix the cap temporarily to where it can hold the spring like it is supposed to, but still can't find any gears except 3rd maybe, but it goes into 3rd so easily it makes me think it's not actually 3rd. Seems to go along the neutral channel fine.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tashbyl
I have a 1969 f-250 camper special with a 360 and 4 speed on the floor. I was driving it after finally getting it running and all of a sudden I had to fight it to try and get it to go into 3rd, then moments later the shifter came completely out of the trans.

After further inspection I found that the channels in the metal cap that allows that shifter to stay in had sheered off. I fixed the cap however a cannot seem to get the shifter to find and gears now. What am I missing here?
1967/72 F100/250 2WD could have the Warner T-18 or the New Process 435 (NP 435) 4 speed. 1967/72 F100/250 4WD would have the NP 435 4 speed.

The shift lever retainer cap for the Warner T-18 4 speed (8MTH-7220) threads off/on.

The shift lever retainer cap for the NP 435 4 speed (B8T-7220-D) has two notches, is retained to the shift tower with two pins.

This cap must be pressed down by hand and held down while turning it counterclockwise to remove it.

Some people are unaware, use pliers or channel locks to remove it, which tears out one or both of the notches.

Based on your description, your truck has the NP 435.

B8T-7220-D .. New Process 435 Shift Lever Retainer Cap / Obsolete

GILLAM MOTORS in Dillwyn VA has 7 = 434-983-2026.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 35 = 800-476-9653.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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Yeah it has to be the NP 435 then. Thank you!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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I have not been here before in a NP435 but I believe the tranny has to be in neutral to put the shifter back in correctly.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 03:53 PM
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look thru the shift hole. You will see three usually square rods ( for a lack of a better description. 1-2;;;3-4;;;reverse. take a long screwdriver or pry bar and slide the rods so all three cut outs are in a straight line. Thus putting tranny in nuetral. Then reinstall shifter.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 03:58 PM
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I have not been here before in a NP435 but the tranny has to be in neutral to put the shifter back in correctly.
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 04:37 PM
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Awesome! Thank you! I think the shifter came out In 3rd so that's why I'm having a time getting it back in. Let me try that
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 05:48 PM
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Got it! Thanks you guys!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 06:30 PM
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The Bumpside Kingdom comes through again. What a team.
 
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I wanted to thank you for this post! Did above and it saved the day!!
 
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